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[drfrey13]

25 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said:

Out of curiosity, why would that make McDaniels look bad? Mariota was a FA and it was well known he wanted a starting shot. 

Even if McD and Ziegler offered to re-sign him, he almost assuredly wouldn't have taken it over a team offering a clear path to start early. At best, he would've had to compete and beat out Carr so clearly that he would start week one. 

Now, shame on Gruden, as a strong performance or 2 by Mariota would've likely increased his trade value for last off season, or, set us up to trade Carr and roll with the cheaper option. That, I wholeheartedly agree with. 

I'm just not seeing where Mariota leaving via FA has much to do with our current staff. I don't think him coming back was a viable option, given all of the circumstances. 

It is definitely more on Gruden when it comes to MM and I agree with you there.  McDaniels issue would be the lack of a good back up and not trying to sign MM.  For example we could have given MM the same contract he got from Atl and had an open competition without resigning Carr.  He still had 1 year left with the ability to franchise him after for far less than what he received.  MM could have been traded or let go after year 1 with minimal issue.  This is just an example but it is the lack of urgency to get a good back up for Carr more so than MM himself.  McDaniels tied his wagon to Carr now and if he can not produce to a big extension McDaniels looks bad.

[Jerry]

1 hour ago, drfrey13 said:

Last year we were at 49% and 60% would rank 16th.  He has not been above 60% since 2015 and also the only year he had over 30 TDs.  He is my QB so of course I want to get him fitted for a gold jacket.  I want him to be the best QB in the league and for him to carry us to a SB victory.  I want $40 million to look like a steal after this year.  Problem is I do not always get what I want.  If Carr struggles at all and MM has a good year the FO of Gruden and McDaniels is going to look really stupid.  I am not saying MM is better but rather we never gave him a chance to show what he had even when the season was lost.

This is a pretty crazy statistic.  I didn't know that most teams scored on over 60% of their RZ attempts.

[ronjon1990]

1 hour ago, drfrey13 said:

It is definitely more on Gruden when it comes to MM and I agree with you there.  McDaniels issue would be the lack of a good back up and not trying to sign MM.  For example we could have given MM the same contract he got from Atl and had an open competition without resigning Carr.  He still had 1 year left with the ability to franchise him after for far less than what he received.  MM could have been traded or let go after year 1 with minimal issue.  This is just an example but it is the lack of urgency to get a good back up for Carr more so than MM himself.  McDaniels tied his wagon to Carr now and if he can not produce to a big extension McDaniels looks bad.

This is a problem, indeed. 

I'm hoping we can find someone worthwhile after June 1, if not late in the draft or whatever. Anywhere, really. 

 

[Darbsk]

22 hours ago, drfrey13 said:

23 hours ago, Darbsk said:

That's really interesting for sure. If they are indeed resuming trade talks then I would think that the leverage is more with the Raiders this time round so I'd be surprised if it's just a trade for our second rounder. I'd be a little underwhelmed if he's traded for our own second rounder as I think with his limited mileage he has tons of tread left on the tyres and a very trade friendly contract at the moment, I'd want at least a first but in this crazy off season I guess anything can happen! 😀

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We had the leverage in the original trade.  Did not help us one bit.

No, we didn't have the leverage because we were the ones that wanted the player. The more you want something the less of a bargain you'll get usually and we were the buyers in that case. You could say Adams wanted out but the Packers had time to make the trade and Adams would have been highly prized by numerous teams. Now, if the Packers want Waller they are the buyers so we have the leverage IMO.

[Jerry]

1 hour ago, Darbsk said:

No, we didn't have the leverage because we were the ones that wanted the player. The more you want something the less of a bargain you'll get usually and we were the buyers in that case. You could say Adams wanted out but the Packers had time to make the trade and Adams would have been highly prized by numerous teams. Now, if the Packers want Waller they are the buyers so we have the leverage IMO.

Three 1st round picks or we're walking.

[drfrey13]

1 hour ago, Darbsk said:

No, we didn't have the leverage because we were the ones that wanted the player. The more you want something the less of a bargain you'll get usually and we were the buyers in that case. You could say Adams wanted out but the Packers had time to make the trade and Adams would have been highly prized by numerous teams. Now, if the Packers want Waller they are the buyers so we have the leverage IMO.

I do not see it that way.  We walked away from the negotiations and GB was stuck with a player that did not want to play for them and only wanted to play with Carr.  Plenty of teams would want Adams but he did not want to play for multiple teams.  I am not saying we should have given them a Hopkins type of trade but we could have easily waited until after the draft to restart negotiations and therefore lowering the value of the picks base upon time alone.  We would also have lowered the value because it would have given us a year to improve and push the picks further into the rounds.  Could have also held out to lower the price.  Multiple ways we could have done a better job.  The longer we drug this out the more leverage we would have.  We were under no time constraints but GB was.  If we do not trade for Adams we draft 2 high prospects.  If GB does not trade Adams they are stuck paying a player that does not want to play for them.  I would say we are in a much better position than GB and therefore we have the leverage.

[drfrey13]

3 hours ago, Jerry said:

This is a pretty crazy statistic.  I didn't know that most teams scored on over 60% of their RZ attempts.

NFL Team Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only)

Rank	Team	2021	Last 3	Last 1	Home	Away	2020
1	Buffalo	66.28%	92.31%	100.00%	65.96%	66.67%	61.04%
2	Tampa Bay	65.79%	72.73%	66.67%	67.44%	63.64%	64.56%
3	Seattle	64.58%	64.29%	66.67%	58.62%	73.68%	73.68%
4	San Francisco	64.41%	40.00%	100.00%	73.08%	57.58%	67.27%
5	LA Chargers	64.00%	75.00%	100.00%	61.90%	66.67%	57.14%
6	Dallas	63.64%	100.00%	100.00%	84.38%	44.12%	50.00%
7	New England	63.08%	91.67%	100.00%	75.00%	48.28%	54.17%
8	Philadelphia	62.90%	83.33%	100.00%	57.58%	68.97%	60.87%
9	Tennessee	62.50%	70.00%	33.33%	63.64%	61.29%	74.24%
10	Minnesota	62.26%	42.86%	0.00%	56.52%	66.67%	71.19%
11	Kansas City	62.20%	71.43%	60.00%	60.78%	64.52%	58.90%
12	Cleveland	62.00%	63.64%	50.00%	60.00%	64.00%	73.33%
13	Miami	61.22%	50.00%	66.67%	66.67%	52.63%	58.33%
14	Baltimore	60.71%	42.86%	0.00%	63.64%	56.52%	59.09%
15	Arizona	60.61%	50.00%	100.00%	64.00%	58.54%	65.52%
16	LA Rams	59.09%	50.00%	100.00%	61.90%	56.52%	57.81%
17	New Orleans	58.93%	36.36%	42.86%	57.89%	59.46%	71.62%
18	Green Bay	57.53%	46.15%	33.33%	57.50%	57.58%	76.81%
19	Indianapolis	56.25%	50.00%	33.33%	62.07%	51.43%	56.92%
20	NY Jets	54.90%	50.00%	--	50.00%	63.16%	42.11%
21	Denver	54.72%	42.86%	33.33%	58.62%	50.00%	53.33%
21	Pittsburgh	54.72%	44.44%	66.67%	56.52%	53.33%	66.07%
23	Cincinnati	54.55%	33.33%	33.33%	55.26%	53.57%	50.00%
24	Atlanta	53.70%	55.56%	66.67%	52.94%	54.05%	53.45%
25	Carolina	53.19%	25.00%	50.00%	47.62%	57.69%	50.88%
26	Washington	52.00%	50.00%	33.33%	52.17%	51.85%	58.82%
27	Houston	51.35%	62.50%	50.00%	63.64%	33.33%	54.00%
28	Jacksonville	51.28%	40.00%	40.00%	41.67%	66.67%	60.00%
29	Las Vegas	49.23%	42.86%	20.00%	57.58%	40.63%	54.24%
30	Chicago	47.92%	45.45%	0.00%	53.85%	40.91%	56.14%
31	Detroit	46.67%	41.67%	40.00%	61.90%	33.33%	66.04%
32	NY Giants	44.74%	50.00%	0.00%	31.58%	57.89%	46.34%

 

[SBXISBXVSBXVIII]

2 hours ago, Jerry said:

Three 1st round picks or we're walking.

3? For a TE? Only QB’s get that much love. I’d ask for a 1st, 2nd, Runyon and Bahktiari.

[RaidersAreOne]

 

[MrOaktown_56]

What a great dude. Rooting for him super hard.

[agarcia34]

 

Edited April 28, 2022 by agarcia34

[Jerry]

17 hours ago, drfrey13 said:

NFL Team Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TD only)

Rank	Team	2021	Last 3	Last 1	Home	Away	2020
1	Buffalo	66.28%	92.31%	100.00%	65.96%	66.67%	61.04%
2	Tampa Bay	65.79%	72.73%	66.67%	67.44%	63.64%	64.56%
3	Seattle	64.58%	64.29%	66.67%	58.62%	73.68%	73.68%
4	San Francisco	64.41%	40.00%	100.00%	73.08%	57.58%	67.27%
5	LA Chargers	64.00%	75.00%	100.00%	61.90%	66.67%	57.14%
6	Dallas	63.64%	100.00%	100.00%	84.38%	44.12%	50.00%
7	New England	63.08%	91.67%	100.00%	75.00%	48.28%	54.17%
8	Philadelphia	62.90%	83.33%	100.00%	57.58%	68.97%	60.87%
9	Tennessee	62.50%	70.00%	33.33%	63.64%	61.29%	74.24%
10	Minnesota	62.26%	42.86%	0.00%	56.52%	66.67%	71.19%
11	Kansas City	62.20%	71.43%	60.00%	60.78%	64.52%	58.90%
12	Cleveland	62.00%	63.64%	50.00%	60.00%	64.00%	73.33%
13	Miami	61.22%	50.00%	66.67%	66.67%	52.63%	58.33%
14	Baltimore	60.71%	42.86%	0.00%	63.64%	56.52%	59.09%
15	Arizona	60.61%	50.00%	100.00%	64.00%	58.54%	65.52%
16	LA Rams	59.09%	50.00%	100.00%	61.90%	56.52%	57.81%
17	New Orleans	58.93%	36.36%	42.86%	57.89%	59.46%	71.62%
18	Green Bay	57.53%	46.15%	33.33%	57.50%	57.58%	76.81%
19	Indianapolis	56.25%	50.00%	33.33%	62.07%	51.43%	56.92%
20	NY Jets	54.90%	50.00%	--	50.00%	63.16%	42.11%
21	Denver	54.72%	42.86%	33.33%	58.62%	50.00%	53.33%
21	Pittsburgh	54.72%	44.44%	66.67%	56.52%	53.33%	66.07%
23	Cincinnati	54.55%	33.33%	33.33%	55.26%	53.57%	50.00%
24	Atlanta	53.70%	55.56%	66.67%	52.94%	54.05%	53.45%
25	Carolina	53.19%	25.00%	50.00%	47.62%	57.69%	50.88%
26	Washington	52.00%	50.00%	33.33%	52.17%	51.85%	58.82%
27	Houston	51.35%	62.50%	50.00%	63.64%	33.33%	54.00%
28	Jacksonville	51.28%	40.00%	40.00%	41.67%	66.67%	60.00%
29	Las Vegas	49.23%	42.86%	20.00%	57.58%	40.63%	54.24%
30	Chicago	47.92%	45.45%	0.00%	53.85%	40.91%	56.14%
31	Detroit	46.67%	41.67%	40.00%	61.90%	33.33%	66.04%
32	NY Giants	44.74%	50.00%	0.00%	31.58%	57.89%	46.34%

 

Yeah I looked this up yesterday.  Hopefully we are able to get to 60%+.

[Jerry]

15 hours ago, SBXISBXVSBXVIII said:

3? For a TE? Only QB’s get that much love. I’d ask for a 1st, 2nd, Runyon and Bahktiari.

You're asking for a lot as well lol.  But I'd be happy with either.  I'm just not giving away Waller without knowing that we are getting better by making the trade.

[Devilshark69]

The sad truth is we didn’t even need to see this to know we sucked in the red zone. Between play calling and penalties. That certainly does make it clear how BAD we were. SMH!!!

[Jerry]

I know DC gets a lot of the blame for not converting TDs in the endzone, but man our OL does need to take some blame.  Thinking about it, they really couldn't stop getting penalties every time we got into the RZ.