Small Town Values Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Tsk, tsk ... How is "BOTH" not an option in the poll? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0LTSFAN4L1F3 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, Marc MacGyver said: Tsk, tsk ... How is "BOTH" not an option in the poll? Because that defeats the purpose of the question. It is asking which one is "more" responsible. Both cannot be more responsible than the other simultaneously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0LTSFAN4L1F3 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/25/2019 at 10:31 PM, lancerman said: Tom used to say similar stuff about Peyton. Then his emails from deflategate were leaked and we realized he didn't really think that way. Brady only referenced how his longevity compared to Peyton's IIRC. He said he could last 10 more years but Peyton only has a couple more years left. It doesn't contradict what he said about Peyton. Brady said Peyton was the GOAT, and he very well may believe that. Maybe, maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Town Values Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 9 minutes ago, C0LTSFAN4L1F3 said: Because that defeats the purpose of the question. It is asking which one is "more" responsible. Both cannot be more responsible than the other simultaneously. "Both equally" as an alternative option would work. And, is likely the correct answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0LTSFAN4L1F3 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Marc MacGyver said: "Both equally" as an alternative option would work. And, is likely the correct answer. So Both hold an identical amount of responsibility for their success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Marc MacGyver said: "Both equally" as an alternative option would work. And, is likely the correct answer. Kind of. it's a perfect storm. It's no secret that coaching plays a bigger part in a teams overall success, most of the time, and can get the most out of all of their players. It's also no secret that a great QB can hide deficiencies in coaching. So what happens when both things happen all at once? You end up being the Patriots. It's about the amount of responsibility though as well. Belichick obviously has more control of the team in general than Brady does so it's obvious who has been more responsible for their success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C0LTSFAN4L1F3 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Just now, JustAnotherFan said: It's about the amount of responsibility though as well. Belichick obviously has more control of the team in general than Brady does so it's obvious who has been more responsible for their success Lol, well there ya go. There's your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Town Values Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, C0LTSFAN4L1F3 said: So Both hold an identical amount of responsibility for their success? I'm simply saying that sometimes things are too close to call. And, this happens to be one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 They are both GOATs for what they do, but I give BB the edge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sryan66611 Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Ok since this one is final and we got the answer lets move on the next one... Who is more responsible for the success of the offense Josh McDaniels/Coaching or Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TecmoSuperJoe Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 12:33 PM, ET80 said: I don't think either are capable of doing what they've done without the other, but if I had to guess, I'd go Belicheck. He went 10-6 with Matt Cassell, he laid down the groundwork for that Brown's/Ravens team. I'd like to think that Brady would still be very good on his own, but not as good as he is now. Ravens? Belichick had nothing to do with the Ravens run of success starting by the year 2000. I think there were only two players on that squad by the time the franchise turned around. Rob Burnett, and Matt Stover. That was at least 5 years after he was fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, sryan66611 said: Ok since this one is final and we got the answer lets move on the next one... Who is more responsible for the success of the offense Josh McDaniels/Coaching or Brady Is this a serious question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lod01 Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Neither. It's Art Modell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyDez Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Plot twist: Robert Kraft traded a first rd pick for a coach that was 36-44 at the time. So who’s really responsible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, DirtyDez said: Plot twist: Robert Kraft traded a first rd pick for a coach that was 36-44 at the time. So who’s really responsible? For anyone who was following the NFL at the time, how did the public generally feel about this move when it happened? I feel like if a team traded a 1st round pick for damn near any head coach nowadays, especially one without a proven, strong track record as a HC, the media and fanbase would be all over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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