Jlash Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Jeezla said: Just re-watched some Rashaan Evans, and I wasn't as impressed as I remembered being with him. Jeezla 4-3 LB Ranks 1 Tremaine Edmunds 2 Roquan Smith 3 Leighton Vander-Esch 4 Darius Leonard 5 Rashaan Evans/Malik Jefferson 7 Fred Warner 8 Josey Jewell 9 Shaquem Griffin 10 Oren Burks/Micah Kiser I'd put Jewell is the 5 range above Jefferson and Warner. Both are more gifted athletes, Jewell's the better player. I think Kiser is going to be a stud 3-4 ILB. Reminds me of David Harris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jlash said: I'd put Jewell is the 5 range above Jefferson and Warner. Both are more gifted athletes, Jewell's the better player. I think Kiser is going to be a stud 3-4 ILB. Reminds me of David Harris. Warner is much better in passing situations (man coverage and potential blitzer) than Josey. Jefferson has stud potential if he can understand the game better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jeezla said: Warner is much better in passing situations (man coverage and potential blitzer) than Josey. Jefferson has stud potential if he can understand the game better. Both Warner and Jefferson have an inherent softness to their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 20 minutes ago, Jlash said: Both Warner and Jefferson have an inherent softness to their game. A lot of athletic LB's are more finesse types when they come out because their athleticism is enough to get the job done. Bradham was "soft" coming out too. Ran around guys instead of through them, but the right coaching staff/teammates can help that mentality change. I don't think they necessarily don't like contact, they just haven't learned to love it yet. They aren't allergic to contact like Dion Jordan was at least. Josey is always to going to be stiff in coverage no matter what his 3-cone is (I have no idea if it's bad or good or if he even did the drill). He has no 2nd gear, lacks suddenness to recover vs NFL talent if he makes the wrong move, isn't really great at anything, average at sifting through traffic, and his instincts aren't good enough to overcome his physical limitations. His ceiling is Paul Worrilow. Warner and Jefferson have pro bowl potential if they can learn to be more physical vs the run, shed blocks, and obviously improve their recognition of opposing offenses in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealMcCoy Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 all the DL talent is ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlash Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 58 minutes ago, Jeezla said: nd his instincts aren't good enough to overcome his physical limitations. 100% disagree about his instincts. They're head and shoulders above Jefferson and Warner to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EAGLES3658 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 What's the scouting report on Jefferson? I watched his game against USC and wasn't impressed. Gonna watch some more of him but nothing stood out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, EAGLES3658 said: What's the scouting report on Jefferson? I watched his game against USC and wasn't impressed. Gonna watch some more of him but nothing stood out. He's mostly potential right now. Similar to a less aggressive Zach Cunningham last year. JLash isn't wrong about Josey's instincts being head and shoulders above Jefferson's (Warner I disagree with). He has next to none. He's a project, but an excellent ball of clay. He sounds like a decent kid with at least some intelligence, so there's hope he can eventually understand the game better, but right now he's mostly just an athlete, even if his production points to him being a good player. I'll take that over the robotic Jewell, but it's going to take time to get return on your investment, because he probably goes late round 2, early round 3 due to lack of top end LB talent, but won't really be able to help a team outside of some nickel formations in year 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldfishwars Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Hi guys We're voting on the Eagles pick at 32 in the draft section. It would be great to have your thoughts and votes. Thanks, GFW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 14 hours ago, Jeezla said: A lot of athletic LB's are more finesse types when they come out because their athleticism is enough to get the job done. Bradham was "soft" coming out too. Ran around guys instead of through them Eh....Bradham never got the soft label. His biggest knocks coming out were consistency and "athleticism". He was a definite measurables guy that did well at the combine and was actually pretty good as shedding tackles in college (despite you often saying that no LBs know how to shed in college pretty regularly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 14 hours ago, Jeezla said: He has no 2nd gear, lacks suddenness to recover vs NFL talent if he makes the wrong move, isn't really great at anything, average at sifting through traffic, and his instincts aren't good enough to overcome his physical limitations. The fun part about Jewell is that he rarely makes the wrong move or takes a bad angle. He may be an average athlete for the position (no idea how he did at the combine) but he's a very good instinctive LB that probably doesn't have the measurables the NFL is looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockey5djh Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 6 hours ago, goldfishwars said: Hi guys We're voting on the Eagles pick at 32 in the draft section. It would be great to have your thoughts and votes. Thanks, GFW Right now Guice is the leader at 32....I don't know how I feel about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesPeteC Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, Hockey5djh said: Right now Guice is the leader at 32....I don't know how I feel about that. This would be a pretty bad board for the Eagles. I picked Goedart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, Hockey5djh said: Right now Guice is the leader at 32....I don't know how I feel about that. That he's BPA? That's the only justification for a RB or CB at this point. I like Ronald Jones and Mark Walton more than Guice, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishHooligan00 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 29 minutes ago, EaglesPeteC said: This would be a pretty bad board for the Eagles. I picked Goedart Gesicki over Goedart ALL DAY!!! lol and i was saying that before the combine im kinda mad he had such a good one cause it vaulted his draft stock lol. Gesicki mixed with ERTZ Tears up LB Cores and Safeties all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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