AlexGreen#20 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 27 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Actually Minnesota has a better adjusted pass protection rate in 2019 so far https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol/2019 Helped by having a scared QB rather than a second action QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: He's also sucked *** against the only 2 actual defenses he's faced. As opposed to the 203 and 209 yard performances that Rodgers put up against the Bears and Vikings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 hours ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Cousins is currently leading the league in passer rating. Even after a 158.3, Rodgers still isn't top 5. With who the Vikings have played and Packers have played that's to be expected. Packers have played 5 teams that are in the top 1/2 of the league in total defense while Vikings have played 2. Vikings have lost 2 of 3 games played against teams .500 or better while Packers have won 4 of 4. When Cousins starts playing teams with better defenses, you'll see those league leading stats plummet. Given more time things will straighten itself out in these so very important passing stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: As opposed to the 203 and 209 yard performances that Rodgers put up against the Bears and Vikings? And wins against both. Stats don't tell all my friend. Good god Irene ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, coachbuns said: With who the Vikings have played and Packers have played that's to be expected. Packers have played 5 teams that are in the top 1/2 of the league in total defense while Vikings have played 2. Vikings have lost 2 of 3 games played against teams .500 or better while Packers have won 4 of 4. When Cousins starts playing teams with better defenses, you'll see those league leading stats plummet. Given more time things will straighten itself out in these so very important passing stats. Or Rodgers will continue to have games with passer ratings in the 90s and he'll fall back down to the 16th rating that he's been at for the last 6 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, coachbuns said: And wins against both. Stats don't tell all my friend. Good god Irene ... Definitely those 10 points that the offense scored against the Bears that led to that win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: As opposed to the 203 and 209 yard performances that Rodgers put up against the Bears and Vikings? Lol pass yards? That's your argument? It's kind of pathetic that you grasp at straws to be negative against your own team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, Packerraymond said: Lol pass yards? That's your argument? It's kind of pathetic that you grasp at straws to be negative against your own team. Would you prefer the sub 1 PPD against the Bears and the sub 1.7 PPD against the Vikings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Would you prefer the sub 1 PPD against the Bears and the sub 1.7 PPD against the Vikings? Rodgers fared far better than Cousins versus the Bears and certainly outplayed Cousins in Lambeau. Sorry it doesn't go with your argument that most of the leagues QBs are better than Aaron. Not even taking into account those were his first 100 snaps in a brand new offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: Rodgers fared far better than Cousins versus the Bears and certainly outplayed Cousins in Lambeau. Sorry it doesn't go with your argument that most of the leagues QBs are better than Aaron. Not even taking into account those were his first 100 snaps in a brand new offense. Can't have this conversation with a single damn one of you people without you pulling this garbage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Can't have this conversation with a single damn one of you people without you pulling this garbage. You're making terrible arguments to try and put down your football team. Your freaking 6-1 football team. I don't think people are too far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: You're making terrible arguments to try and put down your football team. Your freaking 6-1 football team. I don't think people are too far off. He's an above average QB. Nobody is putting down the team. The people acting like this performance against the Raiders is the guy that we've been seeing for the last few years is absurd. He had a great game, but there's just as much of a reason to believe that this was an aberration than there is to believe that he's all of a sudden going to start rattling off a whole bunch of elite performances. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachbuns Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Can't have this conversation with a single damn one of you people without you pulling this garbage. AlexGreen#20, you know football as well or better than most of us. It is mind boggling to me why you insist so vehemently that there are so many more better qb's than Rodgers solely based on varying statistics. We all get there are some qb's that have better stats here and there. I'll take Rodgers and place my bet on him but we'll know more in another 4-5 games if it was an aberration or not. Hopefully, it will help you possibly become a believer. Edited October 22, 2019 by coachbuns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TransientTexan Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 hour ago, incognito_man said: Actually Minnesota has a better adjusted pass protection rate in 2019 so far https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol/2019 Not sure I follow. That page ranks GB at #8 in pass protection and MIN at #22. Are you looking at run blocking? also, FO is great at many things, but grading OL is not one of them. That adjusted sack% stat includes all sacks, whether they were given up by OL, TE’s, RB’s, or a QB holding the ball. So a significant portion of that could be from non-OL. And even if you shift the discussion from OL pass protection to team pass protection, that still does not properly factor out sacks the QB is responsible for. Arod regularly ranks near the top of the league in time-to-throw stats. If a qb holds the ball longer, that artificially inflates sacks, & FO’s stat has no way to account for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, TransientTexan said: Not sure I follow. That page ranks GB at #8 in pass protection and MIN at #22. Are you looking at run blocking? also, FO is great at many things, but grading OL is not one of them. That adjusted sack% stat includes all sacks, whether they were given up by OL, TE’s, RB’s, or a QB holding the ball. So a significant portion of that could be from non-OL. And even if you shift the discussion from OL pass protection to team pass protection, that still does not properly factor out sacks the QB is responsible for. Arod regularly ranks near the top of the league in time-to-throw stats. If a qb holds the ball longer, that artificially inflates sacks, & FO’s stat has no way to account for that. whoops, thought it sorted the whole table (was reading left column). You're correct. 8 and 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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