RpMc Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Vikes22 said: A Power DE that benched 225 17 times🤔. 35 tackles for a loss in 2 years sounds like a guy that’s really good against the run as well ( that YGM by the way ) I could care less what PFF grades players at. Just watch the film.. Bench has very little to do with “power” given that rate of force has nothing to do with the bench test.  Its the single most overrated test at the combine - they either have a base level of strength or they don’t and given that AJ comes from Iowa, where one of the best strength coaches in the country works, I’d say it’s likely he does. Edited April 23, 2020 by RpMc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, RpMc said: Its the single most overrated test at the combine Louder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) All I need to see with Epenesa’s Bench is 85th percentile arm length - as a fellow long-limber, benching with long arms sucks. Edited April 23, 2020 by RpMc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitehops Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, RpMc said: All I need to see with Epenesa’s Bench is 85th percentile arm length - as a fellow long-limber, benching with long arms sucks. same, i have pretty long arms and just shake my head when i see people bench and the combo of their short arms and barrel chest makes it look like they only have to move the bar like ten inches. it's not any fault of theirs, but i have to move the bar literally twice as far for every rep.  just look at danielle hunter, who by every account is insanely strong and a physical freak. he "only" tested out at the 64th percentile for bench among edge rushers. with his thin frame and 34+" arms i'd bet his range of motion was in the 90th+ percentile which makes his bench more impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikes22 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, whitehops said: that's what PFF uses to grade their players. Everyone’s ranks are different. Why does CBS have YGM ranked as the 20th best overall and A.J ranked 34th?  listen, everyone has there own opinion on who they like. Me, I was told by HS coach years ago, “ the big eye doesn’t lie” . I like what I see with YGM. Just look back a few pages in this forum and watch him pan cake Iowa’s LT who will be a 1st rounder next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RpMc Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Vikes22 said: Everyone’s ranks are different. Why does CBS have YGM ranked as the 20th best overall and A.J ranked 34th?  listen, everyone has there own opinion on who they like. Me, I was told by HS coach years ago, “ the big eye doesn’t lie” . I like what I see with YGM. Just look back a few pages in this forum and watch him pan cake Iowa’s LT who will be a 1st rounder next year. Every single player in this draft, from first round stud to UDFA has good moments like that from YGM and bad moments like that from Jackson, and if you pick and choose moments like that you can make everyone look either bad or good.  Just like with stats.  ——— I respect your evaluation of him, but simply disagree. Projecting him against NFL tackles, I don’t see the game changing type of player, I see a solid defensive end, that may or may not get better. I don’t project a ton of improvement over what he currently does because he’s not a technically deficient player, nor is he a freak athlete that can better capitalize on it through NFL coaching.  That’s not a first round player to me. If he’s available in the second round, sure, that would be a good use of the pick. If not, I’d be just as happy with Okwara, Taylor, Gipson in rounds 3-5. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dolmonite26 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Williams for a day three pick would be great, I just hope that Harris being moved to make room for William's contract isn't involved in the overall scheme of things. However, if he is traded for a 2nd round pick, i get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krauser Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 If they can get Williams for a day 3 pick, that'd be great. He's excellent when he's healthy, and they have good depth (Reiff if they keep him or Rashod Hill otherwise) if he does miss a few games. I think Udoh has a real chance to become a quality starter. I like the idea of him getting a chance to develop behind a top flight but older LT rather than investing heavily in a draft pick who's going to take his slot as the team's developmental tackle. Top 4 picks can then be CB, WR, G and DL. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikes22 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 So, if we got Trent Williams, would we move Reiff to OG? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battle2heaven Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Vikes22 said: So, if we got Trent Williams, would we move Reiff to OG? Hopefully with a restructure or else it's "see ya" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 15 minutes ago, Vikes22 said: So, if we got Trent Williams, would we move Reiff to OG? If it was me, I would try to trade Reiff. If nobody was interested there is little harm in keeping him around to compete for a guard spot, but I would count on him being anything at guard and would cut him if he doesn't convincingly earn the spot; he earns too much and is too old to keep him around to learn the guard position over a younger cheaper guy with more upside. Of course, I presume they'll draft a couple younger and cheaper guys with more upside to compete with Reiff for the guard positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikes22 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 What about this: Trade a 4th this year and 4th next year for Trent Williams. Trade Harris to Miami for there 3rd. (70).  kick Reiff into OG and give Williams an extension. Go into the draft with 6 picks in the 1st 3 rounds and wouldn’t have to worry about OT or OG... Sweet!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDBrocks Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, Vikes22 said: What about this: Trade a 4th this year and 4th next year for Trent Williams. Trade Harris to Miami for there 3rd. (70).  kick Reiff into OG and give Williams an extension. Go into the draft with 6 picks in the 1st 3 rounds and wouldn’t have to worry about OT or OG... Sweet!!! Where is the money going to come from? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gopherwrestler Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 2 hours ago, RpMc said: All I need to see with Epenesa’s Bench is 85th percentile arm length - as a fellow long-limber, benching with long arms sucks. I have short arms and benching sucks 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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