Ragnarok Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, Chrissooner49er said: Hmmmm......according to that breakdown, Lamb and Jefferson are the only WRs with no 0s on any of the route tendency percentages. Very nice. Also, Aiyuk's got 30% in screens? That's got to impact perceptions of him. As for Aiyuk, it doesn't impact perceptions imo. 1. It reaffirms his ability to create after the catch. 2. It's difficult to ding a guy for running the route called in a system. 3. Aiyuk also has no zeroes(but he does have a .68%), so you can at least see him run all these routes. And I think he tends to run those routes well(which is more important to how often a route is called). Aiyuk's two biggest areas of improvement for the NFL are hand fighting to get off press coverage and development on intermediate routes. We know he can catch short and take it the distance and that he can track deep balls. Also, over 15% are crossers or slants, so you know he can work underneath to the inside where he can do what he does best. I think this just reinforces what the tape shows on Aiyuk. Dude was easily the most explosive playmaker for his team and they schemed ways to get him the ball quick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Chrissooner49er said: Hmmmm......according to that breakdown, Lamb and Jefferson are the only WRs with no 0s on any of the route tendency percentages. Very nice. Also, Aiyuk's got 30% in screens? That's got to impact perceptions of him. Ruggs and Jeudy both have zero percent for comeback screens I wonder if Bama runs them at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Counselor said: Ruggs and Jeudy both have zero percent for comeback screens I wonder if Bama runs them at all? Comeback route is more like a curl route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Counselor said: Ruggs and Jeudy both have zero percent for comeback screens I wonder if Bama runs them at all? Maybe not. It doesn't seem like they're used as often in college as the NFL. My guess is because it takes more skill to run that sort of route and for QBs to throw it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: Comeback route is more like a curl route. I know what a comeback route is lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Counselor said: I know what a comeback route is lol The chart says comeback route. So why did you say comeback screen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ragnarok said: The chart says comeback route. So why did you say comeback screen? Awww crap lol because the post I quoted said screens Freudian slip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Looking at what had zero percent for them both on the chart you can clearly see what I meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Counselor said: Awww crap lol because the post I quoted said screens Freudian slip. 2 minutes ago, Counselor said: Looking at what had zero percent for them both on the chart you can clearly see what I meant. I do get what you meant now. Just wanted to clarify. That said, I like being able to see a WR run a comeback now and then to see their snap at the top of the route. I highly doubt Jeudy or Ruggs will have any issues with that at all. But you do wonder why a trio of Jeudy, Ruggs, and Tua would never even attempt that route. I'd almost think it has to be because it's not in the playbook as you said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Just now, Ragnarok said: I do get what you meant now. Just wanted to clarify. That said, I like being able to see a WR run a comeback now and then to see their snap at the top of the route. I highly doubt Jeudy or Ruggs will have any issues with that at all. But you do wonder why a trio of Jeudy, Ruggs, and Tua would never even attempt that route. I'd almost think it has to be because it's not in the playbook as you said. I wonder what Smith and Waddles percentages look like also. I’m sure those percentages aren’t available like this though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soko Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Awsi Dooger said: That's why it's so impressive to watch Nick Saban standing alongside the defensive backs and emphatically making sure the backpedal technique is correct, etc. Didn’t Kirkpatrick come out and say Saban doesn’t have them backpedal? I remember that being a criticism of Milliner and Kareem Jackson too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 22 minutes ago, Yin-Yang said: Didn’t Kirkpatrick come out and say Saban doesn’t have them backpedal? I remember that being a criticism of Milliner and Kareem Jackson too. Yes. My recollection is that Bama CBs used to exclusively use bail technique. Don't know if they still do. I'd have to watch to assess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchDJ Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 What does Lamb do better than Jefferson? Someone is going to respond "YAC", but does that really impress you all that in much in a 7v7 conference like the B12? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, ClutchDJ said: What does Lamb do better than Jefferson? Someone is going to respond "YAC", but does that really impress you all that in much in a 7v7 conference like the B12? I think Lamb has better body control. Jefferson has very good body control, but Lamb's is elite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 Good comp for Jalen Reagor? The more I watch the more I think he's vying for WR4 with mims. But I can't think of a good comp... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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