///mcompact Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, canadaluvsdallas said: Fans of any team looking to pick him need to think about this for a second: Rod M. couldn't coach him. Something also to think about: Dallas was willing to eat $3+M in dead money to offload him. I'm still rueing the fact that we passed over TJ Watt because someone in the Dallas war room *cough* RodM *cough* didn't think he could play as a 4-3RDE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awsi Dooger Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Analytics reject. There is simply no reason to draft an analytics reject so high at that position. The Dolphins made the same mistake with Dion Jordan and again with Charles Harris. Other positions can be debated in terms of analytics applicability, but those change of direction and lower body explosiveness tests really pinpoint edge rush success or failure. No reason to care about the exceptions when the examples are so many. Just because an edge rusher looks like an athletic fit based on subjectivity doesn't mean it will pan out that way if his relevant numbers are ghastly. Waldo was obviously way ahead of the game here years ago. I also like the Common Man Football guy on YouTube because he is the first I have seen who smartly incorporates age of the prospect into his analytic ratings, instead of pretending that a 3rd year guy and 5th year guy should be viewed in parallel. This was Jim Cobern's summary of Taco Charlton in 2017: https://draftcobern.wordpress.com/2017/03/13/2017-nfl-draft-analytics-profile-taco-charlton/ "Metric Analysis: Taco Charlton looks the part from a physical standpoint. But his production and athleticism are significantly below average. And he didn’t meet the long-term starter speed score threshold. Charlton has the overall profile of a reserve to backup caliber player. He has some good indicators, but most of his data profile is just ugly." 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabbs4u Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Former 1st / 2nd rd pick, cut/let go by the team that drafted him do to poor production or underachieving? Gee, wonder "Who" collects these types of players at nauseam the past 2 Decades and turns them into players who contribute heavily on their SB Runs?? Patriot in 3 2 1 . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBLIII Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Nabbs4u said: Former 1st / 2nd rd pick, cut/let go by the team that drafted him do to poor production or underachieving? Gee, wonder "Who" collects these types of players at nauseam the past 2 Decades and turns them into players who contribute heavily on their SB Runs?? Patriot in 3 2 1 . . . that would be pretty typical imo. Whoever can turn Shilique Calhoun into a serviceable/ fringe starting caliber player can do the same with Charlton also imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I remember the NFL official Twitter handle trying to prop him up his rookie season in a Preseason game but haven't heard anything about him since. Is he really bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 18 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said: I remember the NFL official Twitter handle trying to prop him up his rookie season in a Preseason game but haven't heard anything about him since. Is he really bad? He and our DC hated eachother so its hard to know. He played well in preseason but he has been invisible in actual games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramxel Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 (edited) Love how every Cowboy fan was hyping this guy through preseason... Super Taco Hype with extra BS on top. Edited September 19, 2019 by kramxel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 14 hours ago, TheKillerNacho said: Miami would probably be more than happy to move him for a late rounder, but I don't think the Cowboys can take on his absurd contact. Dudes like a 25m cap hit this season making him basically untradable A deal can be made with the condition that Miami must take a portion of that hit, but the compensation would have to be pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: A deal can be made with the condition that Miami must take a portion of that hit, but the compensation would have to be pretty good. it's not just this year though Reshad still has two years left on his contract after that with a pretty bad cap hit. Miami will probably cut ties in the offseason and just eat the dead money but another team with less cap room probably doesn't want that burden. He's more or less unmoveable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 34 minutes ago, kramxel said: Love how every Cowboy fan was hyping this guy through preseason... Super Taco Hype with extra BS on top. I call BS. Quotes please. He did have a great preseason, but I am the biggest Cowboys fan in the world and I dont know a single person who had any real expectations for him in the real season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 33 minutes ago, SmittyBacall said: A deal can be made with the condition that Miami must take a portion of that hit, but the compensation would have to be pretty good. 29 minutes ago, TheKillerNacho said: it's not just this year though Reshad still has two years left on his contract after that with a pretty bad cap hit. Miami will probably cut ties in the offseason and just eat the dead money but another team with less cap room probably doesn't want that burden. He's more or less unmoveable. The cap hits are gross, but the receiving team would just be on the hook for the salary. Which is ~$11m/yr. I dont know enough about the guy, is he worth that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: The cap hits are gross, but the receiving team would just be on the hook for the salary. Which is ~$11m/yr. I dont know enough about the guy, is he worth that? He's still pretty good if that's what you mean. He's getting up there in age so his athleticism is down. Probably best used as an in the box safety at this point in his career but he can play FS too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y*so*blu Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Never heard of him, but I really hope that's a nickname. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramxel Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Matts4313 said: I call BS. Quotes please. He did have a great preseason, but I am the biggest Cowboys fan in the world and I dont know a single person who had any real expectations for him in the real season. I know who he is. That's your proof. And I couldn't even name your starting D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetFancyMoses Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 5 hours ago, kramxel said: Love how every Cowboy fan was hyping this guy through preseason... Super Taco Hype with extra BS on top. We have our idiot fans just like every other team. I remember a lot of guys in the Cowboys section saying, "I don't know about this pick" and "Maybe Marinelli can coach him up". I don't remember too many people being excited about the pick, except maybe Eagles fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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