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4 minutes ago, johndeere1707 said:

I think we’ve seen how relying on Green/Ross works. I really like Justin Jefferson. I think having a familiar target for Burrow would be awesome

If we trade Green, then yeah, I won't complain too much.  I think this team has soo many holes that we can't create new ones unless we can get a good haul for AJG.  We need to re-sign Dennard asap...

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28 minutes ago, TheVillain112 said:

I am very much anti taking a WR, RB, or TE with how high we are picking in the 2nd round...

Anti RB and TE makes sense, but I have no problem taking a WR if he's the best player available. That goes for any of the following: IOL, OT, LB, WR.

Lucky for us this draft class is loaded at OL, so there's a very good chance the BPA is OL.

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2 hours ago, TheVillain112 said:

Assuming Burrow #1 overall, for 2.1 here are the guys I'm going to be scouting:

  • CJ Henderson, CB, Florida - WJIII has regressed and while I still believe in him, if Henderson somehow is still on the board, you take the lockdown CB.  He can easily go top 15.
  • Jedrick Wills, OT, Alabama - Another guy that will probably go in the first round, but every year a few of these guys drop to early 2nd round.  Instant upgrade over Hart.
  • Creed Humphrey, iOL, Oklahoma - Billy Price is a train wreck, need to upgrade the inside of the OL where I only trust Hopkins currently.
  • Marvin Wilson, DL, Florida State - Stud interior defensive tackle.  Like CJ Henderson, you get a stud player dropping to 2.1, take em.  Geno just isn't what he used to be and could use some assistance.  Marvin Wilson is a tough player to block one-on-one.
  • Dylan Moses, LB, Alabama - Great range and speed at a dire position of need.
  • Kenneth Murray, LB, Oklahoma - Similar to Moses, he's not as athletic but has a great motor.
  • Troy Dye, LB, Oregon - In mock drafts, he's going in the 3rd round but I can see him rising to a 2nd round prospect.  Physical LB that is always making plays when I watch Oregon games.
  • Mekhi Becton, OT, Louisville - Just a massive OT that is sheer power, he has good feet for his size as well.  With the recent success of Orlando Brown at RT for the Ravens, I think we should fully evaluate what he can do.

Check out David Woodard, LB, Utah State. He can probably be added to the list of round 2/3 targets.

 

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1 hour ago, TheVillain112 said:

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While I've been impressed with Fred Johnson thus far, he might be able to move to RG.  Would potentially make a starting OL of:

LT: Jonah Williams
LG: Michael Jordan
C: Trey Hopkins
RG: Fred Johnson
RT: Mekhi Becton

Also, Shawn Williams needs to be replaced...

I thought Williams was the cut to make instead of Iloka.  Fej is a better safety than him. 

That draft would be fine.  I'd like to hit linebacker sooner as it's been a bad spot for years, but hard to argue against the players that you took.

I'd like to sign a veteran for guard or tackle.  Give Jordan same time to develop and have a good veteran (ie not Cordy) to set the tone in the room for all the young lineman.  I'm talking about Whit, I want to sign him. 

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1 hour ago, Beck Bristow said:

I'd like to sign a veteran for guard or tackle.  Give Jordan same time to develop and have a good veteran (ie not Cordy) to set the tone in the room for all the young lineman.  I'm talking about Whit, I want to sign him. 

I'm all for bringing Whit back.  Jonah + Whit in the locker room would be outstanding.  Also, our depth ends up being John Miller, Whit, and Bobby Hart.  While Hart isn't a starter, he has shown he can be an OK backup at RT...

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I'd like to see us hire Bill Callahan as the new O-line coach. Then trade our malcontent Cordy for Washington's Trent Williams. And also sign Brandon Scherff in free agency. A line of

 

T Williams - Jordan - Hopkins - Scherff - J Williams would be legit and give Burrow a chance. 

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I'm curious as to why a few of you think John Miller needs to be replaced at RG as opposed to Jordan at LG. Miller has easily been our steadiest guard this year. I get that Jordan at least has some theoretical upside because he's young, but he's been downright bad so far.

In order of strongest to weakest on the line I'd say:

1. LT (Jonah)

2. C (Hopkins)

T3. RG (Miller)

T3. RT (Hart)

5. LG (Jordan)

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2 hours ago, sparky151 said:

I'd like to see us hire Bill Callahan as the new O-line coach. Then trade our malcontent Cordy for Washington's Trent Williams. And also sign Brandon Scherff in free agency. A line of

 

T Williams - Jordan - Hopkins - Scherff - J Williams would be legit and give Burrow a chance. 

Fun to fantasize about but way too impractical for this team.

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