August4th Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 we'll get a comp pick for Javon? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigben07MVP Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, August4th said: we'll get a comp pick for Javon? Yes, most likely a 3rd but I’m just assuming. 3 years, 39 mill wow 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumatic Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Hargrave got PAAAAID, so yea pretty likely to be a 3rd Rd comp unless we do some spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Snack Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, August4th said: we'll get a comp pick for Javon? Depends on what we sign in free agency. If we sign a couple mid level guys which l expect then this ends up a 4th or 5th. If we dont sign anyone then outside chance its a 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SlevinKelevra Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 33 minutes ago, bigben07MVP said: Hargrave to the Eagles. He is gonna be an absolute beast this year next to Fletcher Cox. wow, that is quite the duo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKSteeler Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Hargrave has more value than Tuitt who the team is stuck with because they restructured his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dcash4 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) Fun fact I did not know until right now: Tuitt is younger than Hargrave. *sorry forgot to add the fun-er fact: Tuitt had .5 less sacks than Hargrave last year playing 5.5 games. Edited March 17, 2020 by Dcash4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chieferific Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, CKSteeler said: Hargrave has more value than Tuitt who the team is stuck with because they restructured his contract. Disagree. At least not as the Steelers are concerned. Tuitt is one of the best 3-4 DEs in the League and Hargrave didn't fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKSteeler Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Chieferific said: Disagree. At least not as the Steelers are concerned. Tuitt is one of the best 3-4 DEs in the League and Hargrave didn't fit. This would be in an alternate universe where Tuitt stays healthy, right? Because by his own admission he had a down year in 2018, and then missed over half of last season. Tore his pectoral in 2017. So far Tuitt has been paid mostly for potential (he is not a top 10 interior DL). Hargrave was misused by this team. Not because they play a 3-4, but because the coaching staff refused to use him as an interior pass rusher in their packages to the extent that they should have - particularly in his firsts two seasons. If not for Tuitt's injuries, they probably never would have given him significant snaps in that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKSteeler Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Dcash4 said: *sorry forgot to add the fun-er fact: Tuitt had .5 less sacks than Hargrave last year playing 5.5 games. Another fun fact - in 2018, Hargrave had 6.5 sacks to Tuitt's 5.5 despite playing about 250 fewer snaps. And the main point remains that Tuitt hasn't been able to put together that level of play for an extended period of time, but he's paid like he has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chieferific Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, CKSteeler said: This would be in an alternate universe where Tuitt stays healthy, right? Because by his own admission he had a down year in 2018, and then missed over half of last season. Tore his pectoral in 2017. So far Tuitt has been paid mostly for potential (he is not a top 10 interior DL). Hargrave was misused by this team. Not because they play a 3-4, but because the coaching staff refused to use him as an interior pass rusher in their packages to the extent that they should have - particularly in his firsts two seasons. If not for Tuitt's injuries, they probably never would have given him significant snaps in that role. Prior to last season, Tuitt missed 10 games in 5 years. Granted you can't just disregard last Season but it isn't a pattern. 2 games a year from a DL is not that big a deal to me. With that said, if another Season-ending injury occurs again early this year I might agree with you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKSteeler Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 He suffered a season ending injury in 2017, as well. And blamed his mediocre play in 2018 on nagging injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcash4 Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, CKSteeler said: Another fun fact - in 2018, Hargrave had 6.5 sacks to Tuitt's 5.5 despite playing about 250 fewer snaps. And the main point remains that Tuitt hasn't been able to put together that level of play for an extended period of time, but he's paid like he has. Oh good! Let’s keep playing the fun stat game! Tuitt also had 20 QB hits to Hargraves 8 in 2018 (the down year you keep mentioning). He had even more than Heywards 18 and did it in two less games. Hargrave actually only has 2 more QB hits in his 4 year career than Tuitt had in one 14 game season (his “mediocre” season). How did it fair in the 2019 season? Hargrave 6 QB hits....Tuitt in 5.5 games? Seven. I love Hargrave, but Tuitt is the more talented player and produces at a higher level more consistently. The scary part about that, like you mentioned, is that he doesn’t seem to have that consistency of his elite level play like Heyward... but his age 26 season looked like he was tapping into that. Edited March 17, 2020 by Dcash4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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