Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Deadpulse]

15 minutes ago, squire12 said:

 

 

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america?view=total-deaths&tab=trend

dang, July

[BobbyPhil1781]

1 hour ago, Deadpulse said:

Off the top of my head, we were at 150k in June IIRC

So that would make the first 3 months what you listed and the last 3 moths at 50k. Yeah, we've learned a ton about this thing unless it was the summer months to aided in this steep decline. Guess we'll find out in the next 3 months.

[Deadpulse]

7 minutes ago, BobbyPhil1781 said:

So that would make the first 3 months what you listed and the last 3 moths at 50k. Yeah, we've learned a ton about this thing unless it was the summer months to aided in this steep decline. Guess we'll find out in the next 3 months.

we actually hit it mid July according the link @squire12 provided. If you look at the chart, deaths have been at a steady pace since late May

[Xenos]

4 hours ago, BobbyPhil1781 said:

So if those numbers prove to be true, what are the odds this thing just turns into something our bodies learn  to fight and nothing more than another virus that causes the cold? Those numbers are insanely...... not fearful. 

Fatalities with this disease is a problem but not the biggest problem if that makes sense.

[Deadpulse]

1 hour ago, Xenos said:

Fatalities with this disease is a problem but not the biggest problem if that makes sense.

What scares me most is how communicable it is and the lack of awareness on how much that is a problem. Diseases like this mutate the more they spread. The more it spreads, whether its fatal or just a headache, the more the disease mutates in every which way. New strains are scary for a number of reasons including the inability for vaccines and treatments to keep up, the increase in probability of long term effects, the increase in probability that it becomes a catalyst for other illness/disability/etc, and of course the increase in its mortality factor. I know the media rhetoric is focused on death figures right now and people are lulling themselves into a sense of security thinking this is just another flu. The spread of this disease and slowing down case totals should and has always been in the medical community the number 1 goal. However the government keeps the focus elsewhere and would rather suppress the data. It is the most important figure when trying to predict how, when, and to what degree this thing mutates. It's like the draft, it only takes one hit, one really bad mutation, for this to be WAY worse than it has been so far. 

[vikesfan89]

This seems a little extreme. The process of arresting her probably increased the chance of spreading covid quite a bit than if they let her be

[Deadpulse]

8 minutes ago, vikesfan89 said:

This seems a little extreme. The process of arresting her probably increased the chance of spreading covid quite a bit than if they let her be

Its probably more that she refused to leave private property. No different than if she was harassing people in a department store and refused to leave when police arrived to escort her out. She would be forcibly removed. While the mask was the initial catalyst, it likely isnt the reason for the force you see here, only that she refused to leave. 

That being said, I definitely approve of a zero tolerance policy when it comes to public events and masks. You can sit there and say should anyone really be arrested over a mask? I would argue, is it really worth not wearing one to risk being arrested? Meanwhile its proven to be about 80% effective when all parties wear them in terms of prevention. Just wear a freaking mask. 

[vikesfan89]

2 minutes ago, Deadpulse said:

Its probably more that she refused to leave private property. No different than if she was harassing people in a department store and refused to leave when police arrived to escort her out. She would be forcibly removed. While the mask was the initial catalyst, it likely isnt the reason for the force you see here, only that she refused to leave. 

That being said, I definitely approve of a zero tolerance policy when it comes to public events and masks. You can sit there and say should anyone really be arrested over a mask? I would argue, is it really worth not wearing one to risk being arrested? Meanwhile its proven to be about 80% effective when all parties wear them in terms of prevention. Just wear a freaking mask. 

Yeah we don't see what was going on before but he reaches for his handcuffs within 10 seconds of the video starting

Maybe she should have just worn the mask but how much good would a mask do at that point? She's by her family, otherwise she's not near anyone else and they are outside.

Aren't certain people exempt from wearing a mask? At least in Minnesota certain people are

[vikesfan89]

What I don't get is it looks like she has a mask in her back pocket

[Deadpulse]

19 minutes ago, vikesfan89 said:

Yeah we don't see what was going on before but he reaches for his handcuffs within 10 seconds of the video starting

Maybe she should have just worn the mask but how much good would a mask do at that point? She's by her family, otherwise she's not near anyone else and they are outside.

Aren't certain people exempt from wearing a mask? At least in Minnesota certain people are

The only legit medical reason is severe mental illness/anxiety. There is no physical reason not to wear a mask besides like open wounds on your face or something and even then if you bandage up those wounds it shouldn't be a problem. It does NOT restrict airflow in anyway shape or form. A doctor ran 20 miles with an oximeter and a mask on and his air intake didn't change. 

 

[BobbyPhil1781]

9 hours ago, Xenos said:

Fatalities with this disease is a problem but not the biggest problem if that makes sense.

No, I get it and I know my posts reek of me not taking it seriously when that's not the case. I haven't done **** in 6 months. Went to my nephew's soccer game last night in my town but just sat by myself with my damn mask on and watched, not near anyone else. More people I've seen outside a grocery store in a single gathering in forever. Yes, I always wear a mask but I don't like it. I would hope that's common thought. 

[BobbyPhil1781]

http://ir.novavax.com/news-releases/news-release-details/novavax-initiates-phase-3-efficacy-trial-covid-19-vaccine-united

Another phase 3 kicking off. Seems like we're getting more and more each month. Good news. 

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

8 hours ago, vikesfan89 said:

This seems a little extreme. The process of arresting her probably increased the chance of spreading covid quite a bit than if they let her be

I believe the company line for many of these folks is “well, if they’d have just complied none of this would have happened.”

[MWil23]

11 hours ago, vikesfan89 said:

This seems a little extreme. The process of arresting her probably increased the chance of spreading covid quite a bit than if they let her be

Here's a thought. Don't resist and comply with an officer. She became belligerent, antagonistic, and those are the rules. It's quite simple. If you want to watch a football game here in OH, you have to wear a mask; it's literally the law. OHSAA and local health has the authority to shut down events, games, and SEASONS for those not in compliance, including fans. We can argue about whether or not it's justified, but that's the way that it is. I'm tired of dealing with parents who refuse to comply when my 98 players on our roster and our entire coaching staff all comply and abide by the rules.

If you don't wear a shirt or shoes, you get removed from a restaurant if you don't comply and will get tased if you refuse to leave the establishment after being given the opportunity to comply or leave. Legally, this isn't any different. 

Edited September 25, 2020 by MWil23

[LETSGOBROWNIES]

1 hour ago, BobbyPhil1781 said:

No, I get it and I know my posts reek of me not taking it seriously when that's not the case. I haven't done **** in 6 months. Went to my nephew's soccer game last night in my town but just sat by myself with my damn mask on and watched, not near anyone else. More people I've seen outside a grocery store in a single gathering in forever. Yes, I always wear a mask but I don't like it. I would hope that's common thought. 

No one likes it.  No one is wearing them for fun or enjoyment, they’re doing so because they aren’t morons.

I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it until it’s no longer true, the people scream the loudest about wanting to open up and removing mask mandates are the ones slowing things down more than anyone else.  
 

If people just put on their masks and this wasn’t an issue, we’d be 90% back to business as usual and doing so safely.  Instead we’ve got 30 percent of the country that thinks this is a hoax or a hit job or whatever and we’re supposed to take their arses seriously and accommodate their brain rot.