TNF: Bears @ Packers

[Pats#1]

Just now, CWood21 said:

Not sure what that has to do with the discussion at hand...

The league office isnt very good at determining some things even with replays and time to watch them. 

[pheltzbahr]

Just now, Ragnarok said:

So...that backflip double catch was awesome.  

Not funny Rags.  You see how close he came to hitting his head on the ground and dying?

[Forge]

Are the bears running plays always so long developing? I feel like every time they run it just takes forever to get going. 

[strat1080]

What are the Bears thinking running Howard out there with an injured shoulder in a blowout. They shouldn't even be running the ball at this stage but why use an injured RB to do it. John Fox is an idiot.

[Ragnarok]

Just now, pheltzbahr said:

Not funny Rags.  You see how close he came to hitting his head on the ground and dying?

You're right.  I apologize.

I should be banned for such an insensitive comment.  

[Carmen Cygni]

16 minutes ago, jrry32 said:

It is different because a bad DPI call doesn't take Richard Sherman or Josh Norman or Earl Thomas or Luke Kuechly out of the game.

We already complain enough about the refs making bad judgment calls. I have no interest in giving them that call to make.

Well, too late. 

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Penalty: For unnecessary roughness: Loss of 15 yards. The player may be disqualified if the action is judged by the official(s) to be flagrant.

http://www.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/rulebook/pdfs/15_Rule12_Player_Conduct.pdf

Officials have the power for that judgement, it just wasn't deemed flagrant in this case. 

[incognito_man]

6 minutes ago, Pats#1 said:

What has the Packers avg starting field position been this game? lol

 

Gotta be one of, if not the, easiest paycheck Rodgers has earned in a while. 

good defense.

[riceman80]

1 minute ago, jrry32 said:

What criteria does the NFL use to decide whether to suspend the player? 

Impact, intent, recklessness, and post hit response would be my criteria.

Impact - the aggressiveness and impact of the hit

Intent - was the player defenseless, did it happen in the course of a regular play (Or like we just saw, were you away from the play, stop, see the ball carrier, and proceed to try and take his head off), was their chippiness or such taking place before the play.

Recklessness - form of the hit, leading with the crown, impact zone, general body language

Post hit response - not necessary unless you get bragging, like when Brandon Meriweather/Dashon Goldson used took heads off and act like they made an awesome play in doing so

[jrry32]

Just now, CWood21 said:

So you're telling me that your low opinion of the league office is why you don't want to make player safety a priority?  Good to know you can look at this objectively.

Sigh. Provide evidence that it enhances player safety. Defend your claim. Otherwise, it's as meaningful as me claiming that you think puppies have no right to life.

[CWood21]

1 minute ago, Yin-Yang said:

I was referencing your comment that the NFL should implement the targeting rule. There are lots of incoming posts and I'm using my phone, so if I missed too much after, that's why. 

What you wrote in the second half of this post is basically what everyone is saying, so I'm unsure where the confusion or disagreements are coming from.

I'll quote you so you can see my proposal.

LIS, if you have issues with implementation then tweak the rule.  You get called for a targeting call in the game, you're allowed to play and if you receive a 2nd one during the game you're immediately ejected.  At the end of the week's game, the NFL reviews those targeting calls AND if the player is deemed to have illegally "targeting" that player, he is automatically suspended the next week.  Your complaints are with the implementation of the rule, not the reason the rule in place.

That was my proposal, yet jrry is up in arms because a star player might get suspended because of a poor implementation of the rule.

[CWood21]

Just now, jrry32 said:

Sigh. Provide evidence that it enhances player safety. Defend your claim. Otherwise, it's as meaningful as me claiming that you think puppies have no right to life.

That's a cop out and you know it.  I'm done posting if you're going to continue to literally dance around the subject.

[incognito_man]

1 minute ago, Carmen Cygni said:

Well, too late. 

Officials have the power for that judgement, it just wasted deemed flagrant in this case. 

i don't think any of them actually saw it TBH. Was a very late call. Obviously if they saw it in slow-mo like we all did that would have likely been implemented.

[Pats#1]

Just now, incognito_man said:

good defense.

Especially going up against this juggernaut offense 

[JAF-N72EX]

1 minute ago, incognito_man said:

good defense.

A bad snap and an over throw by a QB directly into the hands is not "good defense" lol.

[jrry32]

1 minute ago, Carmen Cygni said:

Well, too late. 

Officials have the power for that judgement, it just wasted deemed flagrant in this case. 

It's not too late. Let me know the last time a player was ejected for a hard hit.