candyman93 Posted May 2, 2021 Author Share Posted May 2, 2021 We’re going to have 9 new starters on defense. Maybe only 8 depending on what they do with Sione. Myles Garrett Malik Jackson Jordan Elliott Jadeveon Clowney JOK Anthony Walker Troy Hill (Nickle) Greg Newsome Josh Johnson Grant Delpit Denzel Ward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 If he is in football shape, think Billings will start ahead of Elliot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, bruceb said: If he is in football shape, think Billings will start ahead of Elliot. Agreed. I also think Togiai will make Elliot a bench warmer. You want to stop the run on early downs put Billings/Togiai in there... Whoof! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGK Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, candyman93 said: We’re going to have 9 new starters on defense. Maybe only 8 depending on what they do with Sione. Myles Garrett Malik Jackson Jordan Elliott Jadeveon Clowney JOK Anthony Walker Troy Hill (Nickle) Greg Newsome Josh Johnson Grant Delpit Denzel Ward Harrison will rotate with the other safeties and even Walker based on the offensive personnel. The DL will (I assume) rotate a lot more with Clowney kicking inside and Takk at DE on passing downs. But this is generally what it will look like. We might get run on a little bit, but no worse than last year (and probably not even that bad) and this pass D is going to be intense. 11 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Agreed. I also think Togiai will make Elliot a bench warmer. You want to stop the run on early downs put Billings/Togiai in there... Whoof! Gotta say, with their offseason so far, I don't think stuffing the run is close to the top priority. And DL is like the polar opposite of OL. With the exception of the true superstars like Myles, the more you can rotate, the better. I'd expect Billings, Elliot, Togiai, and Jackson to all get significant snaps. Assuming they all make the team. If Marvin Wilson is 2018-2019 Marvin Wilson, he's taking someone's spot. (Also interested in seeing if Curtis Weaver can make the roster.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, FGK said: Harrison will rotate with the other safeties and even Walker based on the offensive personnel. The DL will (I assume) rotate a lot more with Clowney kicking inside and Takk at DE on passing downs. But this is generally what it will look like. We might get run on a little bit, but no worse than last year (and probably not even that bad) and this pass D is going to be intense. Gotta say, with their offseason so far, I don't think stuffing the run is close to the top priority. And DL is like the polar opposite of OL. With the exception of the true superstars like Myles, the more you can rotate, the better. I'd expect Billings, Elliot, Togiai, and Jackson to all get significant snaps. Assuming they all make the team. If Marvin Wilson is 2018-2019 Marvin Wilson, he's taking someone's spot. (Also interested in seeing if Curtis Weaver can make the roster.) I'm not at all familiar with Marvin Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted May 2, 2021 Share Posted May 2, 2021 1 hour ago, candyman93 said: We’re going to have 9 new starters on defense. Maybe only 8 depending on what they do with Sione. Myles Garrett Malik Jackson Jordan Elliott Jadeveon Clowney JOK Anthony Walker Troy Hill (Nickle) Greg Newsome Josh Johnson Grant Delpit Denzel Ward I think the key takeaway is that all the new starters will be better than their predecessors. That's big time improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugpimpen Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Just looking at our assumed starting defensive line-up vs. what we had last year is both astounding and bonerific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGK Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 On 5/1/2021 at 8:13 PM, AkronsWitness said: I'm not at all familiar with Marvin Wilson He was getting mocked as a consensus first round pick in the offseason, and often a top 5-10 pick. He had back to back soph/junior years in 2018-2019 of a 90+ PFF grade and was generally considered the stud of this DT class. Then 2020 happened and he crated. Whether he makes the roster or not is gonna be totally about why. Was he battling an injury he didn't tell anyone about? Was a family member really sick? Could he not handle the mental pressure from the pandemic? Did he catch covid without realizing it and it made it harder for him to catch his breath? Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 this is big news for us. It means the cap will go up a good amount next year. We may not have to let any key guys go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, FGK said: He was getting mocked as a consensus first round pick in the offseason, and often a top 5-10 pick. He had back to back soph/junior years in 2018-2019 of a 90+ PFF grade and was generally considered the stud of this DT class. Then 2020 happened and he crated. Whether he makes the roster or not is gonna be totally about why. Was he battling an injury he didn't tell anyone about? Was a family member really sick? Could he not handle the mental pressure from the pandemic? Did he catch covid without realizing it and it made it harder for him to catch his breath? Who knows. Yeah it was a funky year to say the least, so I think betting that he’s closer to the player he’d been literally every other year of his playing career isn’t a bad move. Dude apparently looked fat in 2020 though, he needs to get that cleaned up if so. I don’t get the sense we want a 320 pound DT. He’s imo similar to guys like Nick Harris or Curtis Weaver last year where you like the ability but they need to get their physical in order. No more cafeteria food and keg beer, it’s time to lose the fat and look like an athlete. That said, that’s a really easy fix if a guy is committed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 A big thing to watch is how this LB group is going to shake out come roster cut time. They currently have Walker, Smith, Takitaki, Wilson, Phillips, JOK and Fields. Hiiighly doubtful they keep 7 LBs on the 53. I think Wilson is probably be first in line to be cut followed by Smith maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: A big thing to watch is how this LB group is going to shake out come roster cut time. They currently have Walker, Smith, Takitaki, Wilson, Phillips, JOK and Fields. Hiiighly doubtful they keep 7 LBs on the 53. I think Wilson is probably be first in line to be cut followed by Smith maybe? I think Mack is gone unless he shows a massive Jump in improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 minute ago, buno67 said: I think Mack is gone unless he shows a massive Jump in improvement Yeah, training camp is going to be huge for him to make a real impression. The thing is, I think he can do it. I loved him coming out of college and think this might be the offseason where the fire gets lit under him that propels him to the next level as a impact player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Mack is gonna have to show a TON of improvement tbh. He really hasn’t developed at all since he got here, I’m not sure they’re going to be uber patient with a former 5th rounder in his 3rd season who’s not showing notable improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, buno67 said: I think Mack is gone unless he shows a massive Jump in improvement He’s gone. Nice Twitter cheerleader but god awful LB. at least MJ has an excuse. He’s a 200 pound DB. No excuse for Mack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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