turtle28 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, bigdog44 said: I have no problem with Ron getting all the power he needs, or thinks he needs, to get this thing turned around. Guys remember a season ago, Gruden was checked out since the Haskins pick, and Bruce was checked out, well, for his entire tenure. To come out of that mess with a solid head coach in Rivera was a remarkable job by Snyder, yes Dan Snyder. Did Rivera have leverage in that no one else wanted this job? Probably. Maybe Rivera has a GM In mind that just wasn’t available this offseason. After the last 2 decades, I willing to give this guy the time needed to build a consistent winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Then what the hell is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Thaiphoon said: And the flip side pessimist view is the mirror image of that. What happens when he's in the hot seat as a coach and then bypasses generational talent in the draft in order to get the immediate fix to the roster and save his job as coach? That will happen regardless bc usually when a HC is on the hot seat, so is the GM. The only time I remember that not being the case was when Bruce politicked his way into getting full control in 2014 after Dan fired Shanahan for mishandling RG3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HTTRDynasty Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) Rumor is that it's about Santos and Mann (the fired employees) and their connection to the cheerleading scandal. These "teasers" are annoying. Just drop the damn story if it's that serious. Edited July 14, 2020 by HTTRDynasty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A TRAIN 89 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: Rumor is that it's about Santos and Mann (the fired employees) and their connection to the cheerleading scandal. These "teasers" are annoying. Just drop the damn story if it's that serious. Really? That can't be it. They are football personnel guys. What does that has to do with the cheerleader/calendar scandal? Ashburn is a bizarre place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 11:27 AM, e16bball said: It was a joke. I don’t actually think Ron is setting the concession menu or composing pieces of music. Slacker 11 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: Spicy 8 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: Rumor is that it's about Santos and Mann (the fired employees) and their connection to the cheerleading scandal. These "teasers" are annoying. Just drop the damn story if it's that serious. I hate that crap. I still remember the pure rage the "most sickening video I have ever watched" dez bryant tape story floated by Schefter. Every day for like a week "posting it soon". 5 years later and no one has ever seen it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 4 hours ago, Troublez said: ^^ This is helpful. I would agree with these points and in general with most of what has been said. But see below: Regarding point # 2: Overall - yes, Ron shouldn't give a fly F**** what Danny boy thinks / says regarding football decisions. But, by catering to Dan on non-football related topics, perhaps he is just playing politics.... maybe this is how Ron keep's his hands out of football decisions. Problem is, you shouldn't have to play politics at all. There is a famous story going around in Ravens circles where Bisciotti interviewed Harbaugh and asked him if he could only spend 100 hours in the facility after being hired, how would he spend it. Here is the article- https://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/steve-bisciotti-s-one-question-to-john-harbaugh-during-his-interview-15112393 See that there is nothing in there about front office work. Over 50% of the team is spent one on one with the players. With Rivera, I know he can do that. Here is a great example of how he relates to players- https://247sports.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/Article/All-or-Nothing-Carolina-Panthers-Devin-Funchess-133785574/ That is why we hired him. To instill discipline on a roster severely lacking in it, and lacking in accountability. Club Jay, and I'd even argue it was really Club Bruce, ran rampant. Rivera has proven himself as a coach and motivator, not as a front office guy. We need to let the front office guys do their thing, and Rivera work with the players and coaches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: JLC & the spin doctors Edited July 14, 2020 by turtle28 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 26 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: Rumor is that it's about Santos and Mann (the fired employees) and their connection to the cheerleading scandal. These "teasers" are annoying. Just drop the damn story if it's that serious. Makes sense. Thanks for the heads up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I hate to root for a scandal to be as bad and appalling as it can possibly be, because that means something bad and appalling happen to someone (or multiple someones). But... Do we think there’s any chance...in the current culture and climate...that if the scandal is terrible enough...and especially if it implicates Snyder personally in some way...that Dan Snyder could be...**canceled**? If a really appalling story is coming on the heels of the name change fiasco, could the owners (with some prompting from the league’s sponsors) explore the possibility of forcing Snyder to sell, as they (probably) did with Jerry Richardson a few years ago? Add in the constant underachieving with one of the league’s more prominent teams, as well as the apparent interest of the richest man on the planet in buying into the league (perhaps specifically in DC) — could this summer of tumult be what finally frees the Redskins? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naptownskinsfan Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 minute ago, e16bball said: I hate to root for a scandal to be as bad and appalling as it can possibly be, because that means something bad and appalling happen to someone (or multiple someones). But... Do we think there’s any chance...in the current culture and climate...that if the scandal is terrible enough...and especially if it implicates Snyder personally in some way...that Dan Snyder could be...**canceled**? If a really appalling story is coming on the heels of the name change fiasco, could the owners (with some prompting from the league’s sponsors) explore the possibility of forcing Snyder to sell, as they (probably) did with Jerry Richardson a few years ago? Add in the constant underachieving with one of the league’s more prominent teams, as well as the apparent interest of the richest man on the planet in buying into the league (perhaps specifically in DC) — could this summer of tumult be what finally frees the Redskins? Why do you think he operated through Bruce Allen all of this time, and is shacking up to Rivera? He needs a fall guy. He wouldn't need a fall guy if he was actually in the building running the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezy Fanatic Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, e16bball said: I hate to root for a scandal to be as bad and appalling as it can possibly be, because that means something bad and appalling happen to someone (or multiple someones). But... Do we think there’s any chance...in the current culture and climate...that if the scandal is terrible enough...and especially if it implicates Snyder personally in some way...that Dan Snyder could be...**canceled**? If a really appalling story is coming on the heels of the name change fiasco, could the owners (with some prompting from the league’s sponsors) explore the possibility of forcing Snyder to sell, as they (probably) did with Jerry Richardson a few years ago? Add in the constant underachieving with one of the league’s more prominent teams, as well as the apparent interest of the richest man on the planet in buying into the league (perhaps specifically in DC) — could this summer of tumult be what finally frees the Redskins? I would be curious if this breaking played a role in the minority owners trying to force their way out more than the name change which has been out there for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 I dont think the team can pick up and move without approval from the league. Whether that is in part from the owners or not I have no idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 46 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: Sounds like they’re waiting for the name change to drop whatever this is too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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