Bitty 2.0 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 5:29 PM, NYRaider said: Simmons got absolutely torched in their first game giving up 86 yards and a TD. And has only played 17 total snaps in their last two games. Said it before jack of all trades master at none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 7 hours ago, Bitty 2.0 said: Said it before jack of all trades master at none. I still think he'll be good I just don't love his fit in a 3-4 defense. It also doesn't help that the Cardinals probably have the best LB unit in the league with Chandler Jones, De'Vondre Campbell, Jordan Hicks, Devon Kennard, and Hasson Reddick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 It’s only been 4 games.... Simmons will be fine. He isn’t a jack of all trades master of none. That’s a overly simplistic way of trying to describe him. Even before the draft it was a KNOWN thing that you can’t just toss him into a defense and expect him to dominate. He’s a defensive weapon not simply a OLB. He needs to either have free lance ability or have the scheme centered around him. Not because he has weaknesses in his game that need hiding but rather he has a unique skill set that won’t shine within the restraints of a OLB’s responsibilities. But you don’t base a defense around a rookie, he isn’t that good yet. If he has a creative DC that plays him to his strengths he’ll be a force in due time. However, doing that requires other players around him take on more scheme responsibilities that will limit their play making ability. It’s a trade off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 On 9/29/2020 at 7:57 PM, NYRaider said: We could've used the money we paid Nassib and Witten ($12.5M) to sign Clowney. Whoa,,,, weren’t you the one who thought so highly of Nassib? Defended him to the death? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 5:09 PM, NYRaider said: I liked Muse as a late round developmental prospect but man that was still such a puzzling pick so early in the draft. The one thing that gives me hope though is that Muse is an elite athlete for a LB so maybe he'll be able to develop into something for us. Muse isn’t an elite athlete though. He’s got good straight line speed but his hips aren’t great. He certainly isn’t a poor athlete he’s just above average though. Besides running down a breakway RB in a straight line what crazy athletic plays has he shown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 Sucks that Ruggs is hurt, Ceedee and Jefferson been taking the league by storm. I also feel like Ruggs has impacted Jacobs production. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/6/2020 at 7:22 PM, jimkelly02 said: Muse isn’t an elite athlete though. He’s got good straight line speed but his hips aren’t great. He certainly isn’t a poor athlete he’s just above average though. Besides running down a breakway RB in a straight line what crazy athletic plays has he shown. Tanner Muse (6'2" 227): 4.40 forty (1.54 10 yard split), 4.12 short shuttle, 6.84 3-cone, 34.5" vert, 10'4" broad, 20 bench reps Devin White (6'0" 235): 4.42 forty (1.56 10 yard split), 4.17 short shuttle, 7.07 3-cone, 39.5" vert, 9'10" broad, 22 bench reps 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Anyone really notice Amik Robertson when he was in the game? I usually fixate on the DL so I missed a lot of the secondary play and didnt really notice him too much........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dessie Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Darbsk said: Anyone really notice Amik Robertson when he was in the game? I usually fixate on the DL so I missed a lot of the secondary play and didnt really notice him too much........ Was he in that much ? Joyner came back in and seem to be on a lot of plays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 He played a handful of snaps in the first qtr. made a nice tackle on a screen pass to Kelce in the first qtr then Joyner ended up coming back in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Henry Riggs changes this offense. Definitely one of the fastest WRs in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Darbsk said: Anyone really notice Amik Robertson when he was in the game? I usually fixate on the DL so I missed a lot of the secondary play and didnt really notice him too much........ He played 15 snaps and went unnoticed which is usually a good thing for DBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/6/2020 at 9:22 PM, jimkelly02 said: Muse isn’t an elite athlete though. He’s got good straight line speed but his hips aren’t great. He certainly isn’t a poor athlete he’s just above average though. Besides running down a breakway RB in a straight line what crazy athletic plays has he shown. I'd say Muse is an elite athlete. His Underwear Olympics numbers reflect it. I just don't think he's a great football player. Stacked D around him, he was mostly playing S and LB. But he always seemed too big for S yet too small for LB. Idk, I hated the pick because of when we made it. He was a late Day 3-UDFA to me. I think his ceiling is as a rotational piece and ST guy. But he's almost assuredly an elite athlete per athletic testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 Wonder if Muse could be useful as a blitzer. Be able to use his athletic ability as an advantage over OT. Probably has no technique but he would be useful in that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: I just don't think he's a great football player. Stacked D around him, he was mostly playing S and LB. But he always seemed too big for S yet too small for LB. Pretty much every single player from that Clemson defense has struggled in the NFL other than Mullen. The 3 first round pick DL (Ferrell, Wilkins, Lawrence) have a combined 10 sacks in 62 games, Terrell/Wallace have both struggled, Simmons has really struggled, and Muse couldn't even make our roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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