Jump to content
Hunter2_1

Let's talk about Harry

N'Keal Harry and The Patriots forum  

26 members have voted

  1. 1. what you thinking?

    • Soon to be a great WR, he's coming!
      0
    • Showing signs of improvement, stick with him
      12
    • Undecided
      3
    • Not good, if he doesn't improve soon, he's surely a bust
      7
    • A bust.
      4


Recommended Posts

 

I'm seeing a WR that can't separate, but I'm also seeing toughness and Cam likes him...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

There isn't much to say in my opinion. He is a bust in my book. Now, he probably will still be an NFL receiver for a bunch of years like a Dorsett and others who were first round picks but it's still a bust and a really bad draft pick. I really don't see more than a #3 receiver and that's just bad for a top pick. Seperation is the biggest factor in todays NFL and he just can't do it. I'm sure he works hard and is liked but I just cannot figure out how Belichick always picks the wrong wide receivers. At this point it's more unlikely than actually getting a good wideout. How many times has he missed? It's unreal.

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Harry is what he is - a big bodied guy who can run well after the catch, but can't get open. Fortunately, with Funchess and Benjamin, that's what Cam's used to.

I'm more concerned with having only 3 TE catches all season so far.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, ChazStandard said:

Harry is what he is - a big bodied guy who can run well after the catch, but can't get open. Fortunately, with Funchess and Benjamin, that's what Cam's used to.

I'm more concerned with having only 3 TE catches all season so far.

Dalton Keene needs to get healthy

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He could still put it together IMO. People forget he hasn't had a ton of reps. Granted, its due to his own conditioning and injury, but still. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I know YAC has been brought up with him. 

Week 1 - 22 yac, 4.4 YAC per Rec

Week 2 - 31 yac, 3.9 YAC per Rec

Week 3 - 18 yac, 9 YAC per Rec

 

sooo technically a big leap this week?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It not his fault but I see a Harry as a really bad 1st rd pick.  

Should we keep him hell ya.  He is no better than 4th or 5th option. We need better at that ( 1st /2nd option) position more than he is capable of giving.

Added   Hey maybe he will up his game if he has a real threat on the other side. Ex Randy Moss or  a Ju Ju and A brown. Ju Ju was a whole lot better with Brown.

Edited by m haynes

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He is improving but I have no illusions that he will be a top WR. He was not worth a 1st round pick but should be serviceable. 

Edited by The Third Rider

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We knew he wasn't a separator, so that's not the worst outcome. But I think we all thought he'd box defenders out, be able to run over some DBs, catch balls in traffic with his frame - but we're not seeing this. We have to have him run sweeps, motions or screens just to get him the ball. He's not good on the YAC really either, and apparently that was his thing.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He can be a decent WR2 if Cam continues to build trust with him. But that's probably his ceiling. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think if everything breaks right he can be an OK number 2 on a playoff team

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Lol how this separation stat Harry 3.6  Tyreek Hill 3.4.  Odell Beckham 3.4 Mike Evans 3.1 Chris Godwin 3 A J Brown 2.6 DK Metcalf 2.4   Yeah this is all small sample size but so is Harry's career. After he has played a full season we can see where he is. Also people talk about him being a first round pick like he was a top five guy but he was one pick away from the second round. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 9/29/2020 at 5:13 AM, jofos said:

Lol how this separation stat Harry 3.6  Tyreek Hill 3.4.  Odell Beckham 3.4 Mike Evans 3.1 Chris Godwin 3 A J Brown 2.6 DK Metcalf 2.4   Yeah this is all small sample size but so is Harry's career. After he has played a full season we can see where he is. Also people talk about him being a first round pick like he was a top five guy but he was one pick away from the second round. 

Where do those stats come from?

 

The eye test shows me Harry is never open down the field, whereas Hill just caught a 40 yard bomb and had about 5 yards of separation doing so. Harry has never caught a pass like this

 

They must be counting those swing passes or screens he catches, when a defender has to legally start about 5 yards away from him until ball is snapped.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Hunter2_1 said:

Where do those stats come from?

 

The eye test shows me Harry is never open down the field, whereas Hill just caught a 40 yard bomb and had about 5 yards of separation doing so. Harry has never caught a pass like this

 

They must be counting those swing passes or screens he catches, when a defender has to legally start about 5 yards away from him until ball is snapped.

Hunter the eyes are all you need.  Harry  separation against bum/ run or man is zero. His separation numbers come from zone. CB can play off him and wait til he make his (slow) break and close.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


×
×
  • Create New...