MOSteelers56 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I think he’s going to try for a ring. I don’t think he’d choose us for that currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKSteeler Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I see some real ludicrous stuff getting posted here. Cut Haden and sign an over-the-hill JJ Watt because...why exactly? Did people watch his actual performance last year? Watt isn't some missing piece that will push this defense over the top. Keeping Dupree is the single best move they can make for the defense if you want it elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 41 minutes ago, CKSteeler said: I see some real ludicrous stuff getting posted here. Cut Haden and sign an over-the-hill JJ Watt because...why exactly? Did people watch his actual performance last year? Watt isn't some missing piece that will push this defense over the top. Keeping Dupree is the single best move they can make for the defense if you want it elite. I think Watt’s counting stats didn’t look great because he was the only half way decent player on Houston’s front seven. I think he’ll look a lot better on a talented defense. I don’t think he is as talented as his DPOY days, but I don’t think he’s bound for the glue factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKSteeler Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, MOSteelers56 said: I think Watt’s counting stats didn’t look great because he was the only half way decent player on Houston’s front seven. I think he’ll look a lot better on a talented defense. I don’t think he is as talented as his DPOY days, but I don’t think he’s bound for the glue factory. That's great. I don't think you are getting more bang for you buck adding a rotational piece to the DL over a starting member of the secondary or Bud Dupree. And people suggesting that they retire Ben to make the cap room? Yea, they aren't going to get a much better defensive performance than the one they got in 2019. Building up the defense to turn the keys of the offense over to Mason Rudolph is a recipe for a losing season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, MOSteelers56 said: I think Watt’s counting stats didn’t look great because he was the only half way decent player on Houston’s front seven. I think he’ll look a lot better on a talented defense. I don’t think he is as talented as his DPOY days, but I don’t think he’s bound for the glue factory. He was also the edge player doubled at the highest rate. EDIT: I would think most everyone in here would agree if he comes its gonna end up needing to be at a discount and we an't offer what other teams are gonna offer. For him to come here I think you need to lean into the "just for one year with your brothers" hard and hope he values that over a 1-year $10mil payday. Maybe you can pitch him on he could have a 10+ sack year here so taking less can get him a bigger 2 year deal. Edited February 13, 2021 by warfelg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 23 minutes ago, CKSteeler said: That's great. I don't think you are getting more bang for you buck adding a rotational piece to the DL over a starting member of the secondary or Bud Dupree. And people suggesting that they retire Ben to make the cap room? Yea, they aren't going to get a much better defensive performance than the one they got in 2019. Building up the defense to turn the keys of the offense over to Mason Rudolph is a recipe for a losing season. VS what exactly? Bring back a 39 year old QB, push his cap hit into future that he won't be around for, while replacing the LT, OC, LG, ROLB, and losing a WR, TE, RB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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August4th Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I saw a redraft 2020 mock and it had 3 steelers in it. Claypool, Highsmith and Dotson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I don’t think we have a realistic shot at Bud or Watt. I just think it’s interesting to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rivers Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 pouncey retired, no thread for it, but now it's over. Will ben follow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKSteeler Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 10 hours ago, warfelg said: VS what exactly? Bring back a 39 year old QB, push his cap hit into future that he won't be around for, while replacing the LT, OC, LG, ROLB, and losing a WR, TE, RB? JJ Watt is a short term sign for a team on the cusp hoping they get more out of him than the Texans did last year. The Steelers are already paying two DE's, will be paying the other Watt, and have their own homegrown players to re-sign. The notion of letting Ben go to then go sign him is the dumbest suggestion yet in this entire thread. If Ben is forced out, you are saying that you have given up on winning a championship in 2022 for all intents and purposes. You aren't even really competing for the post-season, but you want to sign an overpriced DE on his last legs... Yea, it's dumb. Almost as dumb as suggesting that Tomlin takes all the blame for his players a few pages back, but I let that one slide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfelg Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 I've yet to see anyone suggest to cut Ben to pay JJ Watt and we aren't winning a championship in 2022 with Ben anyways. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 For me, Ben not being here and JJ Watt being here are 2 very separate things. JJ Watt is a player I've always enjoyed watching so the idea of him being here excites me. Ben, he has done a lot for this organization. And If he retires there is going to be 'growing pains' but I believe it's time to make the transition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSteelers56 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 36 minutes ago, wwhickok said: For me, Ben not being here and JJ Watt being here are 2 very separate things. JJ Watt is a player I've always enjoyed watching so the idea of him being here excites me. Ben, he has done a lot for this organization. And If he retires there is going to be 'growing pains' but I believe it's time to make the transition That about sums up my thoughts as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR43 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 My newest Mock Draft 1. Samuel Cosmi, Texas, OT 2. Creed Humphrey, Oklahoma, Center 3. Chuba Hubbard, Oklahoma State, RB 4a. Chris Rumph JR, Duke, Edge 4b. Ta'Quon Graham, Texas, NT 6a. Benjamin St-Juste, Minnesota, CB 6b. Max Duffy Kentucky, Punter 7a. T.J. Vasher, Texas Tech, WR 7b. Tre' McKitty, Georgia, TE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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