RUGmen 106 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 He was a head scratching hire to begin with and made a bold move to try and move on from Rosen to draft his guy in Murray which has been the right decision. I hear almost nothing about this guy despite him being one of the new “young, savvy” offensive coaches. So is he a good HC? Can he be on the hot seat next year after the Cardinals falling apart this year and Year 3 usually being the make or break? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrry32 9,480 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 He's a mediocre HC. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rich homie 252 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Seems like the consensus is that he held the Cardinals back this year. Definitely on the hot seat this season and if they miss the playoffs again that's gg's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drained 567 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 complete moron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Forge 17,676 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Not impressed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
drd23 1,317 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 55 minutes ago, jrry32 said: He's a mediocre HC. That's being generous imo Now that the likes of Patricia/Gase/Marrone/Quinn have been fired, Kliff is a bottom 5 HC in the league Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrry32 9,480 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, drd23 said: That's being generous imo Now that the likes of Patricia/Gase/Marrone/Quinn have been fired, Kliff is a bottom 5 HC in the league Eh, keep in mind that some of the replacements for the fired coaches will also be terrible. Kliff is at least a good offensive mind. But he's not a good HC. That is clear. That all said, I felt the Cards were a little overrated going into the year (I said as much when people were telling me that the Cards would finish ahead of the Rams). People bought into the quantity over quality hype with them. They signed a bunch of defensive FAs, but none were proven as especially good players. 35 minutes ago, rich homie said: Seems like the consensus is that he held the Cardinals back this year. Definitely on the hot seat this season and if they miss the playoffs again that's gg's. I wouldn't go that far. I think he's a guy who neither elevates a team nor drags them down. He's just a guy. The team will go as far as their talent permits. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilverNBlackFan 1,395 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 I hate their offense I feel like Murray is capable of so much more Quote Link to post Share on other sites
candyman93 7,225 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 That offensive line is a mess. They will be explosive on offense if they can upgrade that unit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
djw4bucs 249 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 He is a medicore HC who got lucky with the talent was given yet couldn't make the playoffs, kyler and nuk deserves better. Don't fire him or anything like that but he better give kyler a decent OL next year Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Starless 2,217 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Seems like he's holding them back in certain areas. I'd give him another year to produce at least a playoff win. If he doesn't deliver, back to college he goes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rich homie 252 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 54 minutes ago, jrry32 said: I wouldn't go that far. I think he's a guy who neither elevates a team nor drags them down. He's just a guy. The team will go as far as their talent permits. imo there's no way they should have missed the playoffs. The terrible form down the stretch seemed to stem directly from him moreso than anything else. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrry32 9,480 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, rich homie said: imo there's no way they should have missed the playoffs. The terrible form down the stretch seemed to stem directly from him moreso than anything else. Entering the season, they looked to be a 7 to 9 win team to me. That's where they ended up. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brushmyhair 130 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 trash Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JAF-N72EX 3,871 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Remember when (seemingly) every team in the league was trying to hire anyone associated with McVay, all the way down to his dog groomer, to be a HC? Cards signed Kliff Kingsbury, Bengals signed Zac Taylor, and the Packers signed Matt Lefluer. The results have been a total mixed bag so far. Kingsbury has a 13-18-1 record, 0 division titles and 0 playoff appearances. Zac Taylor has a 6-25-1 record, 0 division titles and 0 playoff appearances. Matt Lefluer has a 27-7 record, 2 division titles and 2 playoff appearances. One thing they all have in common though is they all drafted a QB in the 1st round. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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