ThatJerkDave Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Danger said: 20 year 1 billion dollar contract. go. 19 years voidable. 69 years, 420 trillion dollars. And a 360 no-scope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 So is "voidable" years the new thing now and nothing really matters anymore? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ET80 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 58 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: So is "voidable" years the new thing now and nothing really matters anymore? Pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: So is "voidable" years the new thing now and nothing really matters anymore? 9 minutes ago, ET80 said: Pretty much. Restructuring to convert base salaries / roster bonuses (which count in present year only) to signing bonuses (that can be spread out over future contract years, up to 4 more Max), has always been allowed. Voidable years have been allowed - just haven’t been used that much before this offseason. And usually not taking place for the next offseason. It’s because so many teams need to get under the new cap quickly, and because the cap will turn rise to a crazy amount next offseason, that this is happening. Pre-Covid cap numbers: 2020: 198.2M 2021: 210M+ 2022: at least 220M+ (TV deal $$ likely a lot more) Post-Covid: 2021: 182.2M 2022: still 220M+ if no stadium revenue lost (and likely still this high or more given the new TV money is apparently insane). The wild Covid cap fluctuation has incentivized this for at least half the league. The Saints are just making up wild numbers for the voidable years as a troll to the league. Edited March 15, 2021 by Broncofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jlowe22 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 10 hours ago, Kip Smithers said: Yeah im not even gonna bother trying to understand the salary cap and it mechanics. Can’t be bothered. Don’t care about football enough to. It’s pretty much useless to worry about. All the front office needs is a few guys with computers and a decent algorithm and you make just about anything work if you want it bad enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 y tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Who are the saints bidding against when they keep singing hill to these contracts. There’s no way any other team gives me anything close to even 10M per. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: Who are the saints bidding against when they keep singing hill to these contracts. There’s no way any other team gives me anything close to even 10M per. The 4 years automatically void. They are non existent except to spread the 9.6M in new bonus money over 5 years in theory - but in practice the 7.7M left after 2021 is due next year. Either Hill leaves NO next offseason and the Saints have 7.7M dead cap - or that 7.7M in dead cap gets spread over the next real contract. Just ignore the 4/140M it’s just a giant troll to the league’s cap message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsDraftGeek47 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 how does a Payton man crush go THIS far? voidable or not this is a laughing stock go ahead and resign Jameis while your at it Saints much respect to Brees, going to be a long wait for something 1/3 of what he was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucsDraftGeek47 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: Who are the saints bidding against when they keep singing hill to these contracts. There’s no way any other team gives me anything close to even 10M per. ...voidable teams... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, Broncofan said: The 4 years automatically void. They are non existent except to spread the 9.6M in new bonus money over 5 years in theory - but in practice the 7.7M left after 2021 is due next year. Either Hill leaves NO next offseason and the Saints have 7.7M dead cap - or that 7.7M in dead cap gets spread over the next real contract. Just ignore the 4/140M it’s just a giant troll to the league’s cap message. Yeah I understand voidable years but why even mess around with paying him anything more than like 5 or 6M a year. Even going back to last year when they signed him to that extension. Who are they even bidding against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: Yeah I understand voidable years but why even mess around with paying him anything more than like 5 or 6M a year. Even going back to last year when they signed him to that extension. Who are they even bidding against. It's just NO having some fun with the number. It could be 5M per, it could be 35M per. Obviously there's sticker shock, but your reaction is exactly why they're doing it - as a big middle finger to the NFL. The league's penalized the Saints for rules infractions, and the Saints still believe they got hosed out of the SB because of the league's inaction, so this is a just a way for them to throw a dagger back that's legally allowed. They basically don't care. Having said that, I did get a chuckle off this observation...not wrong: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojibwe Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 It’s actually really smart from Hill’s camp to do this. Imagine he plays out of his mind, and is a legit starter for the saints (probably not, but stay with me). do they void next year? If they do, they can’t franchise and he might get a big deal somewhere else. It’s a good “bet on yourself” contract, even though we all know it’s getting voided, cause it might pay off huge for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 10 hours ago, Broncofan said: It’s honestly a parody deal. NO has lost draft picks because of Bountygate, and lost picks again this year for Covid violations. They have had issues with the referees (no one forgets that NFCG phantom non call vs. LAR). Loomis and Payton have no love for the FO. This is their way of flaunting the latest method to get under the cap that’s allowed. Like how NE reduced Brady’s base salary to 1M when he got suspended to reduce the lost salary to 250K instead of millions. Taysom already had a voidable year on his deal, too. They could've restructured him and just pushed it all into next season, the exact same way this new deal works. It would have barely been noteworthy. The 4-year extension was 100% unnecessary lmao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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