lancerman Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 18 hours ago, raiderrocker18 said: Yep. But the grounds for a TRO are essentially identical to that of an injunction. Only kicker is that it will be a different judge. Still, I've been saying for the past week that it's unlikely he'll miss time. The irreparable harm is clear and this case is different enough from Brady to convince the court that he has a case. It's different enough but it's actually a weaker case. There was vagueness in the rules applied and punishments applicable to the Brady case, including the issues with the procedure. Elliot's case has been black and white since they made that rule change in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, raiderrocker18 said: The key to keeping up with the story is to not get legal info from sports journalists Yeah! Get 'em from guys on a football forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raiderrocker18 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 12 minutes ago, domepatrol91 said: Yeah! Get 'em from guys on a football forum. If they're lawyers, absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raiderrocker18 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, lancerman said: It's different enough but it's actually a weaker case. There was vagueness in the rules applied and punishments applicable to the Brady case, including the issues with the procedure. Elliot's case has been black and white since they made that rule change in 2016. Eh. The Brady case was challenging whether or not the league relied on "credible evidence" while the Elliott case is apparently challenging the fairness of the NFLs internal appeals process Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 minute ago, raiderrocker18 said: If they're lawyers, absolutely I was just being cheeky. Yes, we have some very knowledgable posters here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 In all honesty, the Cowboys are 2-3 and are not lighting the world on fire. They could get by with McFadden and Morris for the next 6 weeks. This is doing more harm than good for all parties and the dragging out is just ridiculous. Serve the suspension and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raiderrocker18 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Don't see how it's hurting zeke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 5 hours ago, raiderrocker18 said: Eh. The Brady case was challenging whether or not the league relied on "credible evidence" while the Elliott case is apparently challenging the fairness of the NFLs internal appeals process That was actually exactly what the Brady case challenged. Brady's case was that there was a specfic rule for the violation he allegedly broke and that they applied a different rule that gave Goodell more leeway to punishment and that he applied that rule by citing Brady's refusal to hand over a cell phone that Brady's team was told he didn't need to surrender. Brady also challenged the fairness of the appeals process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbuff23835 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 hours ago, mike23md said: In all honesty, the Cowboys are 2-3 and are not lighting the world on fire. They could get by with McFadden and Morris for the next 6 weeks. This is doing more harm than good for all parties and the dragging out is just ridiculous. Serve the suspension and move on. If you’re innocent you fight for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXsteeler Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 How much money is all of this stuff costing tax payers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, TXsteeler said: How much money is all of this stuff costing tax payers? The NFL and NFLPA are private entities that pay for their own legal costs. The judges and court staff are salaried. In fact, the lawyers making money off of this leads to tax revenue (and consumption), so in the end, it's probably a net positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle21121 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Misread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2017/10/18/sources-ezekiel-elliotts-team-nfl-discussed-possibility-settlement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48 1/2ers Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 @SpanosPayYourRent is a great username LOL But this should end in a settlement, 6 games is pretty outrageous. 6 games lost in a season could be a difference in tens of millions of dollars lost for some guys in contract years or coming off injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleLion Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 The latest reports have pretty much said that a behind the scenes negotiation has been happening for a while and it makes sense that both sides might want a deal. It’s become essentially a pissing contest between Goodell and the players union. What’s forgotten in all of this is the principle. Elliott is fighting for the right to say that you can’t suspend me only based on allegations. Ohio prosecutors declined to prosecute Elliot based on lack of evidence then what makes Goodell think he has enough evidence to suspend this guy. Goodell was sole person who made the decision to suspend. The bigger picture is what happens in the future and Goodell will keep on suspending players based on allegations. That’s what happens when you have got a head honcho with a background in economics and business. Made his way up the ranks in the NFL league office and was voted in by the owners to protect their interests within the league. His only care being to increase up the revenue the league makes. He goes against anything that negatively effects the numbers. Frequently that means going against fairness and the rights of the players. Proof of this being the concussion interest from the league office didn’t begin until large publicity surrounding former players who allegedly committed heinous acts because of concussions sustained during their playing days and after former players decided to sue the league. The pensions of players in byegone eras is a pittance. Meanwhile he has made a little more than 179 million dollars in salary and bonuses in only his first 9 years as the head of the league. All for this man who’s got no background in sports and admittedly knows very little about football. Keep on fighting it Zeke. Even though you are famous and making the millions. You somehow strangely are like one of us regular dudes. http://www.latimes.com/sports/nfl/la-sp-goodell-football-expert-20170907-story,amp.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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