Jeremy408 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, MrOaktown_56 said: You didn't read it did you? It's talking about simplifying player responsibilities and allowing them to play faster. Which is a big change from Guenther's convoluted scheme. I wonder why this always gets ignored lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Just now, NYRaider said: His defenses got progressively worse every year with the Chargers, was that a miracle? again changing direction of the discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Just now, agarcia34 said: So now you're bringing in FA signings, please stay on one topic instead of searching for new outs In general, Mayock/Gruden have not shown that they have an eye for talent. In the draft or in free agency. Karl Joseph was an after thought in free agency, just like Damarious Randall was last year, there was no market for him. He literally got replaced by Ronnie Harrison last year because he struggled in coverage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, agarcia34 said: LOL Who made those players HOF level type of players? Cause Richard Sherman was a 5th round pick Bobby Wagner was a 2nd round pick Kam Chancellor was a 5th round pick Only Earl Thomas was a first round pick. Soooooo maybe he is a miracle worker. I've already done this one with him already lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, agarcia34 said: again changing direction of the discussion The reality is that Karl Joseph has never shown the ability to play FS or thrive in single high in the NFL in 5 seasons as a pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Which is fine. But Joseph has never shown the ability to thrive at FS or in coverage in the NFL. And he's never been asked to do it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 I'm not the only one who thinks its not a bad idea when he's not covering TEs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Just now, Jeremy408 said: I've already done this one with him already lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said: I wonder why this always gets ignored lol I wonder why the Browns and Raiders, two teams with weak safety play, let KJ walk in free agency if he has the ability to thrive as a starting FS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I wonder why the Browns and Raiders, two teams with weak safety play, let KJ walk in free agency if he has the ability to thrive as a starting FS. Because they had him playing SS lol Edited April 9, 2021 by Jeremy408 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 1 minute ago, MrOaktown_56 said: And he's never been asked to do it? https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2020/12/2/22056641/the-cleveland-browns-number-one-coverage-cover-3 The Browns primary coverage last season was cover 3. Why didn't they line Joseph up in single high in the same scheme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 Just now, Jeremy408 said: Because he was playing SS lol The Browns most used coverage last season was cover 3, the same coverage that Bradley uses the majority of the time. The Browns defensive scheme relies on a FS that can play in single high. They had Joseph on the roster last season and didn't use him there. Why? Since he apparently has the ability to thrive in that role, you think they would've done it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, NYRaider said: The Browns most used coverage last season was cover 3, the same coverage that Bradley uses the majority of the time. The Browns defensive scheme relies on a FS that can play in single high. They had Joseph on the roster last season and didn't use him there. Why? Since he apparently has the ability to thrive in that role, you think they would've done it. Different coaches see different traits in players. Example the Eagles and the Raiders both ran west coast offenses. One saw Nelson Agholor as Slot receiver only. Other saw him as an outside receiver. The whole idea with the raiders is Kenyan Drake is supposed to be that he supposed to be a Swiss Army knife running back. Why didnt the Cardinals who traded for him and gave him 8 mil see him that way? That's just how the NFL is lol Edited April 9, 2021 by Jeremy408 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakdb36 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I wonder why the Browns and Raiders, two teams with weak safety play, let KJ walk in free agency if he has the ability to thrive as a starting FS. He probably doesn't have the ability to thrive as anything. But they're drafting a S soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, NYRaider said: https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2020/12/2/22056641/the-cleveland-browns-number-one-coverage-cover-3 The Browns primary coverage last season was cover 3. Why didn't they line Joseph up in single high in the same scheme? No idea. I'm assuming they pigeonholed him in as a box safety and they looked for a safety who can play in the box and cover in man more effectively, which is what John Johnson III does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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