WFT OTC II: Pick 51 (Zaven Collins #19)

[e16bball]

At pick 19, we went with Zaven Collins. 

Here’s how it broke down on the way into pick 51. As before, please assume that if a really good player isn’t listed, it’s because he’s already picked or otherwise not on the board for us. 

41. Detroit: Jay Tufele, DT, USC

42. NY Giants: Boogie Basham, EDGE, Wake Forest

43. San Francisco: Gregory Rousseau, Miami

44. Dallas: Daviyon Nixon, DT, Iowa

45. Jacksonville: Eric Stokes, CB, Georgia

46. Philadelphia: Terrace Marshall, WR, LSU

47. NY Giants (trade): Asante Samuel, CB, Florida State

48. Las Vegas: Ronnie Perkins, EDGE, Oklahoma

49. Arizona: Wyatt Davis, OG, OSU

50. Miami: Levi Onwuzurike, DT, Washington

[MKnight82]

Probably between Moore and Eichenberg here.  I’d like to see what Charles can do at LT so I went with Moore.

[ARTMONK HOF]

Dillon Radunz was my choice. Impressive at the Senior Bowl. Excellent technique but just needs to bulk up some

[taylor made]

Just now, ARTMONK HOF said:

Dillon Radunz was my choice. Impressive at the Senior Bowl. Excellent technique but just needs to bulk up some

Mine too

[noptov52]

I went with Richie Grant, who I think would feast with our d-line putting pressure on opposing QBs.  One of the WRs is super tempting too.  I love Rondale Moore, but there's also some overlap as he'd probably be best out of the slot and Curtis Samuel is also best out of the slot.

[offbyone]

Holland

[Thaiphoon]

This was a tossup between Radunz and Grant. I went with the OL guy in Radunz as I have more faith in our current Safeties than I do in our OL (especially with Scherff's one foot out the door) AND I'm a "draft a lineman in the first 3 rounds every year" guy.

And also, I've watched a ton of his play and he's a darned good OT (might kick in to Guard but he would still strengthen that line)

[Woz]

Going with a bit of a "wisdom of the crowds" approach as a check against my gut instinct

Position	Name	School	CBS	DT	NFL	PFF	PFN	TANK	TDN	WF	AVG	STD DEV	OLY AVG	OLY StD
WR	Rondale Moore	Purdue	20	28	85	33	31	42	37	46	40.25	18.53	36.17	6.26
EDGE	Joe Tryon	Washington	50	65	40	75	48	37	39	43	49.63	12.71	47.50	8.77
S	Richie Grant	UCF	36	30	77	49	39	54	58	57	50.00	14.04	48.83	8.55
LB	Nick Bolton	Missouri	68	40	37	34	67	51	51	71	52.38	13.86	52.33	11.91
S	Jevon Holland	Oregon	54	48	72	50	62	57	44	31	52.25	11.48	52.50	5.94
OT	Liam Eichenberg	Notre Dame	80	54	56	52	63	41	34	51	53.88	12.96	52.83	6.57
OT	Dillon Radunz	North Dakota St	55	74	70	32	50	52	33	62	53.50	14.42	53.67	11.41
OT	Jalen Mayfield	Michigan	49	39	126	144	70	43	40	39	68.75	39.67	61.17	30.82
S	Elijah Molden	Washington	60	62	71	35	92	61	60	150	73.88	32.28	67.67	11.53
CB	Kelvin Joseph	Kentucky	47	91	59	67	52	67	110	150	80.38	32.73	74.33	19.96
WR	Dyami Brown	UNC	88	72	98	45	90	58	38	150	79.88	33.40	75.17	18.80
EDGE	Payton Turner	Houston	57	132	39	58	118	66	86	72	78.50	29.83	76.17	21.07
RB	Michael Carter	UNC	75	76	91	89	74	73	67	75	77.50	7.68	77.00	5.45

CBS: CBS Sports
DT: DraftTek
NFL: NFL.com
PFF: Pro Football Focus
PFN: Pro Football Network
TANK: Tankathon
TDN: The Draft Network
WF: Walter Football

In case you care, these were selected as the top free results from DuckDuckGo when searching for "2021 nfl draft prospects"; the score of 150s for Walter Football are because he only went with a top 100 and they didn't make it. In thinking about it, that was a bit unfair to those guys so I added in an "Olympic Average" (OLY AVG), which drops the highest and the lowest scores and averages the remaining.

 

Had Washington not signed both Curtis Samuel and Adam Humphries, I might be willing to take a spin on Rondale Moore. As the saying goes, you cannot coach speed. At the same time, he's tiny. Don't really need an edge rusher and we drafted Zaven Collins in the first so I'm not sure it makes sense to go back-to-back linebackers.

I am bit confused by Jalen Mayfield, and maybe you all can help. How do we have five sites that have him as a just missing out as a first round prospect, a sixth has him as an early third, but two sites have him at the bottom of the fourth or mid fifth? To be honest, that's probably where I would have gone before the massive divergence of opinion (almost a full round's standard deviation, even when throwing out the high and low?).

Eichenberg and Radunz are a lot more stable in their grades, but I dunno, neither really excites me. No, I didn't watch the Senior Bowl. Yes, it's probably the school. And yes, it's something about their names. Don't think of a Liam or a Dillon as road graters.

 

So, I guess I ended up at Richie Grant. Not totally thrilled by this, but *shrugs*.

[turtle28]

37 minutes ago, offbyone said:

Holland

I went with him too, we need a stud playmaker at FS. I could go either way on Holland or Grant, I like them both. I love Moore, Brown, Mayfield & Bolton here too. I could really go with almost any of these and be happy.

[ovfd55]

I went Moore think his value and fit makes him the top choice

Grant would be my #2 as He's prob my safest saftey pick

[Slappy Mc]

Went Radunz. A bit of a reach, but the player has potential and it's a position of need.

Edited April 29, 2021 by Slappy Mc

[4209]

 

It is hard to find a safety that is versatile in all aspects of the game and when you do they are drafted in the early rds.  In the old days your Safety could survive without great coverage skills (Alvin Walton types). But in today’s spread offenses your safety better be versatile and can play all over the field. Your free safety most have the ability in all areas of the game, coverage, tackling in the box and outside the box,  single-high safety with great range really just whatever scheme that’s asked of him. Give me the Grant here please. Richie grant!!!!

[turtle28]

12 minutes ago, 4209 said:

 

It is hard to find a safety that is versatile in all aspects of the game and when you do they are drafted in the early rds.  In the old days your Safety could survive without great coverage skills (Alvin Walton types). But in today’s spread offenses your safety better be versatile and can play all over the field. Your free safety most have the ability in all areas of the game, coverage, tackling in the box and outside the box,  single-high safety with great range really just whatever scheme that’s asked of him. Give me the Grant here please. Richie grant!!!!

I think Moehrig & Holland are in that same realm. I like Grant just as much, maybe even more.

[4209]

Moehrig for sure. They made even pick Moehrig in a trade down deal. 

Edited April 29, 2021 by 4209

[4209]

Here are some of my late rd prospects that are weak in some areas but strong in other areas but they have a chance to be coached up. A few of them like Grant have the versatility that we need b/c we blew a lot deep coverage's last yr (the Detroit game for one). The signing of Jackson will allow us to play a little more man coverage and more cover 1.

 

Richie Grant 

Caden Sterns

Hamsah Nasirildeen

Richard LeCounte

Paris Ford      

Tyler Coyle

Marcus Murphy

Kolby Harvell-Peel

Qwynnterrio Cole

Andre Cisco