DreamKid Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, MikeT14 said: Especially because the actual best RT was still on the board then too (Jenkins). Exactly. Both of the positions the Ravens hit in the 1st Round(WR & EDGE), they double dipped at later. With Rashod Bateman/Tylan Wallace, and Odafe Oweh/Daelin Hayes. They took 0 Tackles in a draft class full of them. So yea, this Leatherwood to Baltimore talk is just silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irrevalentfalconsfan Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Winners- Atlanta, Jags and Browns. Losers- Saints, Seahawks and Raiders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irrevalentfalconsfan Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 14 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: Yea we know the Raiders reached on Leatherwood. But FWIW there's been a number of reports saying the Ravens were going to take him at 27. Obviously 27 > 17 value, but people saying he'd be there in the mid 2nd/early 3rd are off. To be fair, many called AJ Terrell a reach last season and he's become a promising young corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Prince Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Winners- Patriots Losers- Rest of the NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said: Just going off of these and there's a couple more tidbits from Athletic guys mentioning Baltimore. TBF this is the same guy who last week hinted that the Ravens WOULDNT be going OL in the first round because "they know it's a deep position in the draft" Yeah, not buying it. This guy has been known to fling crap and see what sticks (at least when it comes to the Ravens) Edited May 3, 2021 by Ray Reed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 On 5/2/2021 at 11:39 AM, Chiefer said: Mahomes is for sure a winner Potentially the OL looks like a great unit now, cant say they havent tried to fix it. What's they've done with that offensive line after cutting what I thought was 2 really important players was unbelievable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 hour ago, irrevalentfalconsfan said: Winners- Atlanta, Jags and Browns. Losers- Saints, Seahawks and Raiders. Welcome to Football's Future! In my book, anyone who says the Jaguars are winners is destined to be a real asset to this site. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: Welcome to Football's Future! In my book, anyone who says the Jaguars are winners is destined to be a real asset to this site. Hard to screw up when you have the number 1 pick. Of course they wouldn't have the number 1 pick if Jacksonville wasn't a franchise of screw ups! Edited May 3, 2021 by TENINCH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Just now, TENINCH said: Hard to screw up when you have the number 1 pick. Of course they wouldn't have the number 1 pick of Jacksonville wasn't a franchise of screw ups! Sorry Charlie. That was in the old days. We cleaned all the screw ups out in the off season. Urban Meyer is shaping this place up! He's even bringing Tim Tebow in for a tryout as a TE! The Trevor-to-Tebow connection is going to be legendary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Uncle Buck said: Sorry Charlie. That was in the old days. We cleaned all the screw ups out in the off season. Urban Meyer is shaping this place up! He's even bringing Tim Tebow in for a tryout as a TE! The Trevor-to-Tebow connection is going to be legendary! The Jacksonville to London connection with no return flight is going to be even better! 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, TENINCH said: The Jacksonville to London connection with no return flight is going to be even better! 🤞 I sure hope not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 2 hours ago, MWil23 said: To be fair, I think that when the Steelers made the decision to bring back Ben, it's absolutely an "all in" and win now move, so drafting for a team like that (win now mode team that is) is going to be different. Exactly. The first two picks were absolutely "win now" picks to give Ben IMMEDIATE help. They had to find a way to make up for his growing deficiencies. 2 hours ago, MWil23 said: As a whole, Harris is probably "bad value" in the first, but they desperately needed a running back. Is Harris bad value or just the position? Im not a fan of RB in the first at all, but Harris was the rated as a first rounder on most boards....and I feel like the ones where he wasnt were mostly focusing on the value of the RB position. 2 hours ago, MWil23 said: They also needed a TE, and got who many feel was the 2nd best there in Friermuth, and if he works out, that's a great pick. I personally think that he will, but as a whole, that position takes some time, so if they're counting on him immediately, it's probably a bit optimistic. I wouldve taken Creed Humphrey here....but Friermuth is a pretty safe player to at least be solid. 2 hours ago, MWil23 said: I personally LOVE Kendrick Green, so that's as good of a value pick as I've seen in the draft. Quincy Roche I feel as though is a definite steal in the 6th as a pass rushing specialist on a team that excels developing guys here. There were a few real head scratchers in terms of clearly not addressing the OL until R3, but if Green is able to come in and be capable as a rookie and Harris is the real deal, they've done what they needed to do as of 2021...especially if Friermuth is able to contribute. Yeah. I dont think most Steeler fans would claim this is a class we are excited about, but it at least makes sense. I wouldve been angrier if they decided to bring Ben back (because they believe they cant still win a SB with him) and then drafted for the future. Our first 3 picks could be starters this year, or at least get alot of playing time early. For outside fans, I get the negativity....but as I said, our drafts never get much love. We always make some questionable picks....especially after round 2. However, the Steelers drafts are typically not any worse than alot of teams who are initially praised for their drafts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TENINCH Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 32 minutes ago, Uncle Buck said: I sure hope not. Evillaugh.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 39 minutes ago, 43M said: Exactly. The first two picks were absolutely "win now" picks to give Ben IMMEDIATE help. They had to find a way to make up for his growing deficiencies. And if they do, it makes them "good picks". Like I said, TE is such a hard position to make an immediate impact, so that's one that I question, but if he ends up developing into a good starting TE at any point, that's a good pick. 39 minutes ago, 43M said: Is Harris bad value or just the position? Yes and Yes. 39 minutes ago, 43M said: Im not a fan of RB in the first at all, but Harris was the rated as a first rounder on most boards....and I feel like the ones where he wasnt were mostly focusing on the value of the RB position. I'm a bit in the minority with Najee, but IMO, it's really hard to project just how good his vision is and burst through the LOS with guys like Creed Humphrey, Jedrick Wills, Leatherman, Landon Dickerson, and more blocking for you. Throw in the fact that due to their 4 Top 15 Wide Receivers (it's a cheat code) and 2 1st round QBs, he never faced a loaded box of any kind, so getting "tough yardage" wasn't something that anyone really was able to gauge either. He may very well be the true RB#1 and AWESOME. He may very well be very capable like Ingram. He may very well be the 2nd coming of Trent Richardson. ...and none of that factors in positional value or injuries. But again, they were kind of in "no man's land" on the OL front, and RB was clearly their 2nd biggest need outside of OL, so perhaps it makes sense from a value standpoint. 39 minutes ago, 43M said: I wouldve taken Creed Humphrey here....but Friermuth is a pretty safe player to at least be solid. Yeah. I dont think most Steeler fans would claim this is a class we are excited about, but it at least makes sense. I wouldve been angrier if they decided to bring Ben back (because they believe they cant still win a SB with him) and then drafted for the future. Our first 3 picks could be starters this year, or at least get alot of playing time early. Yep. You can't both bring Ben back AND draft for the future. It's "win now" period. 39 minutes ago, 43M said: For outside fans, I get the negativity....but as I said, our drafts never get much love. We always make some questionable picks....especially after round 2. However, the Steelers drafts are typically not any worse than alot of teams who are initially praised for their drafts. They're also rarely in a position to make big splashes and sexy top tier picks based upon where they're consistently picking in the draft as well. It's not like they're going to be reeling in those Top 10 dudes very often if ever based upon pre-draft slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irrevalentfalconsfan Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 2 hours ago, Fresh Prince said: Winners- Patriots Losers- Rest of the NFL I'll have some of what this guy's taking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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