Draft Day Winners and Losers

[RaidersAreOne]

19 minutes ago, wackywabbit said:

IDK... the Ravens didn't take a single tackle with any of their 9 picks. Seems hard to believe a report they were planning to take Leatherwood, especially since he wasn't even close and they said they didn't want to trade up at all. They surely were not narrowed down to a player that far in advance. It seems like there is one guy saying that "report" and he doesn't seem to be on the Ravens beat or have broken anything about the Ravens. The FO also literally admitted they were putting smoke out about who/where they were targeting, including saying they didn't need WRs and that it was insulting to the young WRs on the team to say they needed more there. They of course took Bateman in the 1st AND Tylan Wallace in the 4th.

Just going off of these and there's a couple more tidbits from Athletic guys mentioning Baltimore.

[TecmoSuperJoe]

Did new Jaguars GM Trent Baalke really draft two players coming off a torn ACL?  

[Hunter2_1]

4 hours ago, Bearerofnews said:

 

 

Agree with a lot on that list. 

[.Buzz]

6 hours ago, TecmoSuperJoe said:

Did new Jaguars GM Trent Baalke really draft two players coming off a torn ACL?  

Cisco is.

Walker Little technically is but he's been healthy for like a year now. Would've played last year if not for the opt-out.

[RayLew52]

12 hours ago, RaidersAreOne said:

Yea we know the Raiders reached on Leatherwood. But FWIW there's been a number of reports saying the Ravens were going to take him at 27. Obviously 27 > 17 value, but people saying he'd be there in the mid 2nd/early 3rd are off. 

This is hysterical to me. Decosta and his war room are a freaking vault and nothing leaks out of there. So to me this claim is hogwash.

[Nick_gb]

11 hours ago, Nut said:

Please, you got living room GM's that play the whole "oh they reached on this guy", "this team is dumb for doing this", etc.

The draft is the single most overhyped, overanalyzed and overrated event in the NFL.

So overhyped, overanalyzed and overrated that you decided to take time out of your day, to come in a thread that you apparently don't agree with, just to express those feelings. If you don't want to see it, don't turn on the TV and don't come into a football forum the day after the draft and open threads that have anything to do with the draft. You control what you do and what you don't see. Not anyone else, the rest of us will do as we please because unfortunately for you not a single one of us care about your feelings on the topic. I know, how dare we?

Edited May 3, 2021 by Nick_gb

[MSURacerDT55]

On 5/1/2021 at 11:51 PM, 43M said:

Browns fan has Browns as the best and Steelers as the worst with no real explanation at all?  Sounds about right.   😏

 Bad positional value?   Maybe, but they needed help at those positions IMMEDIATELY.    The first round pick was fine.     I dont like RB early, but we had nothing at the position and there wasnt a ton of value at OLine or CB when we picked.    I wouldve rather taken Creed Humprey in the second....but oh well.    Friermuth can be a day one contributor, and they still want to try to win with Ben, so it was a fine pick.

Fans always hate the Steelers drafts and claim the rest of the AFC North killed it because they draft more high profile players or players that are mentioned more....yet they dont typically draft notably better.   Browns and Bengals always get their draft classes talked up, but they typically end up with equal or worse classes.

I have no idea how this draft will turn out.     Im not incredibly happy with the Steelers draft, but I never am.

You're having a hard time over there little buddy? You need a hug?

[MikeT14]

32 minutes ago, RayLew52 said:

This is hysterical to me. Decosta and his war room are a freaking vault and nothing leaks out of there. So to me this claim is hogwash.

Especially because the actual best RT was still on the board then too (Jenkins). 

[ET80]

11 hours ago, Nut said:

Please, you got living room GM's that play the whole "oh they reached on this guy", "this team is dumb for doing this", etc.

The draft is the single most overhyped, overanalyzed and overrated event in the NFL.

So... Why did you join this site? Are you looking to apply for the group contrarian position? Because we're not taking applications at this time, thanks.

[Snake Plissken]

20 minutes ago, ET80 said:

So... Why did you join this site? Are you looking to apply for the group contrarian position? Because we're not taking applications at this time, thanks.

Is this like the 10th Man in World War Z?

[Nick_gb]

11 hours ago, Nut said:

Please, you got living room GM's that play the whole "oh they reached on this guy", "this team is dumb for doing this", etc.

The draft is the single most overhyped, overanalyzed and overrated event in the NFL.

I just want to touch base on a few things here, since you decided to come into this thread and talk down on anyone making predictions the day after the draft and referring to them as living room GM's. Here's a couple of your recent posts:

"Well, if the GM keeps saying they're committed to Rodgers, he is effectively admitting that the Love pick was a wasted pick (which it was)." 

You referred to Love as a wasted pick, this is a hindsight comment because prior to that pick Aaron Rodgers wasn't playing at an MVP level. Also, if he does well in the NFL as a QB, the Packers set themselves up for another 15 years of good QB play. 

Maybe, just maybe Rodgers is an overrated choke artist? The only constant in GB's postseason failures has been him. They've surrounded him with talent and even changed coaches to appease him.

Here you are, talking down on Aaron Rodgers, when you just referred to Love as a wasted pick. Which one is it? Was Love a wasted pick or is Aaron Rodgers an overrated choke artist? 

"Why GB took a DB instead of a WR: Rodgers just won MVP and had his best season in years, why would they need to reach for a WR?"

Here you are hyping up Aaron Rodgers, you seem to be unable to commit to any of your own comments on these forums. 

"Maybe, but I'm not gonna crown a guy as the next big thing when he played one season at a D2 school, looked bad in his one game last season and is alarmingly inaccurate as a passer."

Here you are being a living room GM in regards to Trey Lance. 

"BPA that fits a need. No brainer pick."

Here you are referring to a player as Best Player Available in the draft. What a living room GM comment to make. 

Do I need to go on or are you finally getting the point? You just as anyone in this thread has an opinion on prospects in the draft or current players in the NFL (Yours just happens to change every 5 minutes) - So, do me and everyone in this thread a favor and shut the fu** up. Thanks! 

 

 

 

[ThatJaxxenGuy]

12 hours ago, Nut said:

Please, you got living room GM's that play the whole "oh they reached on this guy", "this team is dumb for doing this", etc.

The draft is the single most overhyped, overanalyzed and overrated event in the NFL.

What team do you follow ? Something tells me someone’s grumpy-wumpy about their teamie-weenie getting a bad grade.

 

You know if you want to go that route sports in general and fandom is irrational, technically. At the end of the day it’s just big men chasing a ball and smashing each other and we overhype, over analyze, and overrate it. Doesn’t mean we as fans can’t find it awesome and love to over analyze, overhype, and overrate it. Isn’t that why we are on a forum like this 4-5 months out from the season ??
 

It’s fun to consider who’s going to be a good player in the future. Give it a try maybe you’ll enjoy it
 

 

Edited May 3, 2021 by ThatJaxxenGuy

[MWil23]

On 5/1/2021 at 11:51 PM, 43M said:

Browns fan has Browns as the best and Steelers as the worst with no real explanation at all?  Sounds about right.   😏

 Bad positional value?   Maybe, but they needed help at those positions IMMEDIATELY.    The first round pick was fine.     I dont like RB early, but we had nothing at the position and there wasnt a ton of value at OLine or CB when we picked.    I wouldve rather taken Creed Humprey in the second....but oh well.    Friermuth can be a day one contributor, and they still want to try to win with Ben, so it was a fine pick.

Fans always hate the Steelers drafts and claim the rest of the AFC North killed it because they draft more high profile players or players that are mentioned more....yet they dont typically draft notably better.   Browns and Bengals always get their draft classes talked up, but they typically end up with equal or worse classes.

I have no idea how this draft will turn out.     Im not incredibly happy with the Steelers draft, but I never am.

To be fair, I think that when the Steelers made the decision to bring back Ben, it's absolutely an "all in" and win now move, so drafting for a team like that (win now mode team that is) is going to be different.

As a whole, Harris is probably "bad value" in the first, but they desperately needed a running back.

They also needed a TE, and got who many feel was the 2nd best there in Friermuth, and if he works out, that's a great pick. I personally think that he will, but as a whole, that position takes some time, so if they're counting on him immediately, it's probably a bit optimistic.

I personally LOVE Kendrick Green, so that's as good of a value pick as I've seen in the draft. 

Quincy Roche I feel as though is a definite steal in the 6th as a pass rushing specialist on a team that excels developing guys here.

There were a few real head scratchers in terms of clearly not addressing the OL until R3, but if Green is able to come in and be capable as a rookie and Harris is the real deal, they've done what they needed to do as of 2021...especially if Friermuth is able to contribute.

[Dr A W Niloc]

Chicago, New England, Cleveland, and Baltimore made out like bandits.

San Francisco, New Orleans, and the Rams fared poorly. 

It may not be a popular sentiment but Houston (as well as Seattle and Kansas City) showed the Rams how to enter late in the draft and still get rather good value.

[Dr A W Niloc]

21 hours ago, Nut said:

I love threads like this.

Grading drafts right afterwards has got to be one of the dumbest things football fans do.

Get back with me in 3 or 4 years THEN we'll talk.

Personally, I find it more fun to predict consequences before the results are in.

I'm funny that way.