MookieMonstah Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 minute ago, KhanYouDigIt said: We all had big expectations for Viska. He has just been so disappointing. Could be one of the worst route runners I have seen. He runs the wrong routes. Drops, from a lack of focus. If you get the ball in his hands, he is a tank to bring down. Like a bull in a China shop. We did a good job of that early on this past week. He then proceeded to follow that up with two drops. He has been a frustrating player. Allowing Keenan McCardell (WR coach in Viska’s rookie year) to leave was a massive mistake. Turn him into Cordarelle Patterson. Just use him as a HB/WR. I feel like he's the exact same dude lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Just now, MookieMonstah said: Turn him into Cordarelle Patterson. Just use him as a HB/WR. I feel like he's the exact same dude lol Doesn’t have close to the same speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Just now, .Buzz said: Doesn’t have close to the same speed. True, but I feel like Shenault is the same type of player. Would be a great guy to use on screens, end arounds, runs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 I still think Lawrence is going to be a great QB BUT, if he were to bust, I wonder if more and more draft evaluators will hold it against guys like Lawrence, Fields, and Tua who played for loaded programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, MookieMonstah said: True, but I feel like Shenault is the same type of player. Would be a great guy to use on screens, end arounds, runs. We already do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Just now, .Buzz said: We already do that. Oh...So he just sucks. Brutal. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MookieMonstah Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, iknowcool said: I still think Lawrence is going to be a great QB BUT, if he were to bust, I wonder if more and more draft evaluators will hold it against guys like Lawrence, Fields, and Tua who played for loaded programs. idk...Mac Jones is doing alright. I think it's more of a statement about the NFL organizations. Look at how quickly Mac Jones has found success. Give a guy a good environment and cast and you've done half the work already. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, MookieMonstah said: idk...Mac Jones is doing alright. I think it's more of a statement about the NFL organizations. Look at how quickly Mac Jones has found success. Give a guy a good environment and cast and you've done half the work already. yep.. the guys who take bad roster and turn them into good offenses are extraordinarily rare not saying you HAVE to build the cast first (because that makes it harder to get the elite QB), but you have exactly ONE offseason to fix the situation if you put someone in a Rosen/Darnold/Lawrence/ZWilson type of situation as a rookie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Buzz Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 You look at the type of situations Burrow and Herbert were in last year even and it’s just insanely different. They both had OL issues, but the weapons set up for them right when they walked in were absolutely terrific. Almost makes me think weapons are transitioning to being more important for a QB, or at least a young QB. It’s not like the Jaguars OL is full of world beaters (and it’s regressed the past few weeks especially), but man… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSlim Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 26 minutes ago, MookieMonstah said: idk...Mac Jones is doing alright. I think it's more of a statement about the NFL organizations. Look at how quickly Mac Jones has found success. Give a guy a good environment and cast and you've done half the work already. Seeing the team environment Mac Jones is in with a established organization like the Pats vs what Lawrence, Fields and Wilson is dealing with us why there’s many on the “get rid of the draft” bandwagon. It’d never happen but I always thought it was an interesting discussion even before seeing this year’s rookie QB situations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 hour ago, MookieMonstah said: Way to early to say Lawrence is a bust...but you're also fooling yourself if you're acting like it isn't concerning how badly he's played. Ur fooling yourself to think if u had any qb lining up in our very dysfunctional offense doing any better. The only one I think could make it semi-work would be Brady but even then I don't think he can turn explosive diarrhea into a normal poop. The problems for the jags offense is lack of speed and lack of talent in skill positions. Look at the guys with the most snaps at wr and te Marvin Jones, shenault, Treadwell, O'Shaughnessy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 Ok... so, not saying he's better (because he's not) but why is Davis Mills able to perform at a mediocre level with just as bad an offense in Houston? Right now, I don't think it's really a question, Mills is playing better - and their situations aren't really too far off from one another (dysfunctional organization, lack of weapons, etc). So... what gives? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeT14 Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, ET80 said: Ok... so, not saying he's better (because he's not) but why is Davis Mills able to perform at a mediocre level with just as bad an offense in Houston? Right now, I don't think it's really a question, Mills is playing better - and their situations aren't really too far off from one another (dysfunctional organization, lack of weapons, etc). So... what gives? Brandon Cooks is p good tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelonebillsfan Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 50 minutes ago, Tk3 said: yep.. the guys who take bad roster and turn them into good offenses are extraordinarily rare not saying you HAVE to build the cast first (because that makes it harder to get the elite QB), but you have exactly ONE offseason to fix the situation if you put someone in a Rosen/Darnold/Lawrence/ZWilson type of situation as a rookie I'm just gonna say it. Those guys don't even exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, ET80 said: Ok... so, not saying he's better (because he's not) but why is Davis Mills able to perform at a mediocre level with just as bad an offense in Houston? Right now, I don't think it's really a question, Mills is playing better - and their situations aren't really too far off from one another (dysfunctional organization, lack of weapons, etc). So... what gives? One qb has a good OC and the other has a a crappy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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