Pats#1 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Troy Brown said: what's more likely? getting stopped on 4th and 3 on your side of the field and cowboys getting 20 yards and scoring... or trying to pin them and get the ball back and need 20-30 yards yourself? "you have to have faith in mac" doesn't matter when the refs blew a call on the previous play. it's not always about mac himself. Getting 3 yards was a lot more likely than holding Dallas out of FG range from why I saw throughout the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, The Third Rider said: So instead of losing 20 we lose by 6, makes all difference I suppose... Not that they need to go full madden every game but that was a key 4th down. Or do you disagree? here's the deference, we are in it late most of the time. That doesnt happen if we play ultra aggressive with an inexperienced team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Brown Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Just now, Pats#1 said: Getting 3 yards was a lot more likely than holding Dallas out of FG range from why I saw throughout the game. oh well, didnt work that way today. nobody needs to be fired lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Brown Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 i feel like some of you still have very strong feelings about the 4th and 2 against indy too 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pats#1 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Troy Brown said: oh well, didnt work that way today. nobody needs to be fired lmao I never suggested such a thing….fought those calls quite a bit last week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazStandard Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Just now, Troy Brown said: i feel like some of you still have very strong feelings about the 4th and 2 against indy too …bad spot cost them the game. But I would still have punted it, because I believe in giving Peyton as many chances as possible to choke the game away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Third Rider Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: here's the deference, we are in it late most of the time. That doesnt happen if we play ultra aggressive with an inexperienced team. My gripe is mostly with the last 4th down call and the 50 yard kick in the middle of the rain, I not saying that they need to go for it every time a 4th down presents itself. I don't have clairvoyance but it also doesn't take a genius to know that handing the ball back to the top 4 offense things wont end well. Edited October 18, 2021 by The Third Rider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChazStandard Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Deadpulse said: here's the deference, we are in it late most of the time. That doesnt happen if we play ultra aggressive with an inexperienced team. There’s nothing ultra aggressive about lining up to try and get the D to jump on a 4th and 3 in OT. Worst comes to the worst you burn a TO. Even if you go for it and don’t get it you’ve not lost anything, because the gassed and injured D was simply never going to hold Dallas out of FG range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpulse Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Just now, ChazStandard said: There’s nothing ultra aggressive about lining up to try and get the D to jump on a 4th and 3 in OT. Worst comes to the worst you burn a TO. Even if you go for it and don’t get it you’ve not lost anything, because the gassed and injured D was simply never going to hold Dallas out of FG range. You also give them a chance to beat themselves, which they almost did. We can go in circles forever, but at the end of the day we are looking at this as Monday QBs. You miss the 4th down, its over right there. You attempt the punt, SO much more can happen. With a team this inexperienced (we saw them burn two timeouts because Harry didn't go into motion and because Mac didn't read the play right) you give yourself as many chances to make something happen as possible. If that doesnt satisfy, oh well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Brown Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 yall like baseball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jofos Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 It's frustrating to lose a game but here is some perspective when comparing the Patriots to the Cowboys: Since 2001 the Patriots have drafted 6 players in the top 20 of the draft ( Seymore {6} 2001, Ty Warren {13} 2005, Mayo {10} 2008, Nate Solder {17} 2011, Mac Jones {15} 2021) The Cowboys have 6 players they drafted in the top 20 on their current roster (Tyron Smith, Zack Martin, Ezekiel Elliot, Leighton Vander Esch, CeeDee Lamb, Micah Parsons) They also have Amari Cooper a 4th over all pick. So when people complain about lack of weapons that is the price for 20 years of success. The Cowboys price for their success in the 90s was 9 winning seasons in the 25 years since winning their last Super Bowl. The Cowboys have made 10 playoff appearances in that time frame the Patriots have been to 10 Super Bowls. Rebuilding takes time and I don't think the Patriots are 25 years away. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartMyV8 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 From the look of things, I'm betting next year we'll start winning games like this. Curious to see where we stand at the end of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ForTheThumb Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 There’s no defending Belichick’s decisions to kneel before the half and punting in OT to that offense. Inexcusable. Were not the favorites in these games anymore, you have to adjust. This is just not a good football team, and the off season signings (aside from Henry and Judon) look like whiffs early. We need to rehaul our secondary, OL, and Inside LB groups this off season. On a positive note, we’ve found the most important piece in Mac Jones. Kid is legit and I hope the people who wrote him off immediately vs Fields are eating some crow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1ForTheThumb Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 11 hours ago, Deadpulse said: Honestly it's hard to take any of you guys pounding the table that BB shouldve gone for it on 4th down seriously when whenever a 4th down comes up, even a 4th and not short earlier this game, most of the same people say go for it. If you guys made these calls the Patriots would lose by 20 every week lol Because a decent amount of the time, especially with that offense on the other side of the field, you should be going for it lol. Offense has an extreme advantage in today’s NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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