TheKillerNacho Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Apparently muffed punt is still a punt. Except the kicking team can now grab it, which means it should be considered a live ball. Stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game3525 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dodo said: Special team coaches as HC's = Gawds They interact with every player. I don't know why most of them don't get any interviews for HC positions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, TheKillerNacho said: I'm looking at the rules and I'm not sure I see any rule making it so. The ball hit a Bills player, went into the endzone, was recovered by a Bills player, then tackled. It seems pretty damn obvious it should be a safety? Touchback versus safety is a matter of where the ball was possessed, not touched. This came up in another game a week or two ago. If the player it hit in the field of play never possessed it, it doesn't matter for safety rules. So if it was only ever possessed in the end zone, it's a touchback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, klyon7634 said: First time I’ve seen the Texans and Holy crap that offense is god awful We've had worse https://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore/houston-texans-vs-pittsburgh-steelers-2002120811 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, TheKillerNacho said: I'm looking at the rules and I'm not sure I see any rule making it so. The ball hit a Bills player, went into the endzone, was recovered by a Bills player, then tackled. It seems pretty damn obvious it should be a safety? I'm not arguing, man.. I don't understand it either In a real trainwreck of a game, that ruling could be massive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Jakuvious said: Touchback versus safety is a matter of where the ball was possessed, not touched. This came up in another game a week or two ago. If the player it hit in the field of play never possessed it, it doesn't matter for safety rules. So if it was only ever possessed in the end zone, it's a touchback. So why is it a live ball on a muffed punt as if it were possessed then fumbled? Seems inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, mse326 said: We've had worse https://www.footballdb.com/games/boxscore/houston-texans-vs-pittsburgh-steelers-2002120811 Haha...I remember that game.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 I just can't watch any more of this hide-Darnold-at-all-costs offense any longer. Â It is sooooo boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mse326 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 1 minute ago, TheKillerNacho said: So why is it a live ball on a muffed punt as if it were possessed then fumbled? Seems inconsistent. A kickoff is a live ball after 10 yards but is still a TB. Completely consistent. Live ball doesn't require the other team to have possessed it. (I don't like it but it is consistent) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotanKing Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 wait..is the Bills crowd booing Cole Beasley? Or am I hearing it wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, TheKillerNacho said: So why is it a live ball on a muffed punt as if it were possessed then fumbled? Hey, I know the rules, doesn't mean I always know the why. I would assume the live ball bit is more a matter of when they consider possession to have actually changed. Kind of like on a kickoff, which team has the ball effectively changes once the kick either goes 10+ yards, or the receiving team touches it. But it being a live ball doesn't mean the receiving team has possessed the ball, which is what impacts the whole touchback/safety thing. So like, here, once the receiving team touches it, it's a live ball, but no one on the receiving team has actually possessed it, so it can't be a safety. I dunno, I'm sure there's some historical reason for it or something. Would suck if like a partially blocked punt became a safety if the ball still went far enough or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Jimmy said Trey Lance who lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Beasley got crunched Not a defenseless receiver by rule, but for all intents and purposes, he was hung out to dry there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Just now, mse326 said: A kickoff is a live ball after 10 yards but is still a TB. Completely consistent. Live ball doesn't require the other team to have possessed it. (I don't like it but it is consistent) This is basically a tl;dr for my response lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agarcia34 Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 And the 49ers miss the xp lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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