AkronsWitness Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, ET80 said: Now... is that a function of how these guys are as QBs, or is this a function of this current class not really living up to any sort of standard? Legitimately curious on your view. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jeezla said: If you want to go full Arizona, then you also need to hire the QB's college coach to be your HC. Also, your FO isn't Arizona's. If you strike out on that round 1 QB and take Josh Rosen, you are probably going to be stuck with him for 3 or 4 years. Going the AZ route requires you to pull the trigger on a QBs in the top 10 which the Broncos dont do, ever. They took Brandley Chubb and Patrick Surtain over Josh Allen and Justin Fields the last 2 chances they got. They deserve to be where they are at right now with no QB hope. Edited November 22, 2021 by AkronsWitness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, AkronsWitness said: Going the AZ route requires you to pull the trigger on a QBs in the top 10 which the Broncos dont do, ever. They took Brandley Chubb and Patrick Surtain over Josh Allen and Justin Fields the last 2 chances they got. can't thank them enough for taking Surtain, starting the domino of the Eagles eventually getting DeVonta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Broncofan said: 3. Finally, both Patrick & Sutton's contracts are going to look even WAY better by next offseason, and like massive bargains by the 2022-23 offseason. Why do I say that? Becusae the new TV contract money kicks in full force by 2022-23 (and already pushes up the cap a healthy 220M minimum this offseason, could be much higher). It's a major reason why teams are looking to lock up young guys now - they know when the cap #'s are released, the top end contract $ is only going to go up. NFL and NFLPA have set the 2022 cap ceiling at $208M. Not the 220M you are suggesting https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-nflpa-agree-to-208-2m-salary-cap-ceiling-for-2022-season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NudeTayne Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 3 hours ago, squire12 said: making the WR room room for Rodgers!!! Fify Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncofan Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, squire12 said: NFL and NFLPA have set the 2022 cap ceiling at $208M. Not the 220M you are suggesting https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-nflpa-agree-to-208-2m-salary-cap-ceiling-for-2022-season In that article - they actually point out the final cap $ won't be set until February 2022 (nor have they set the cap floor either). The 208M is the minimum cap increase both owners & NFLPA agreed to, expect it to be higher. 2nd paragraph of above link. The 4th paragraph points out that the final cap number won't necessarily be 208M, but it will be at LOWEST 208M. The analyses done from the TV deals estimate 220M to be the target number - unless there's a massive drop in revenue this year that was unaccounted for. That's the reason for setting a more conservative floor - but again, once the season's over, the number gets reset. Edited November 22, 2021 by Broncofan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad People Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Making room for Karen Rodgers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 hour ago, mattyice0401 said: Making room for Karen Rodgers? Listen man....after watching Siemen, Keenum, Teddy, Lock, ect since 2016---I will gladly take all of the baggage Rodgers brings lol I also really want to see guys liek Fant, Jeudy, Sutton with a actually good QB for once. I want to really see what they can do with a pro bowl level QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad People Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Listen man....after watching Siemen, Keenum, Teddy, Lock, ect since 2016---I will gladly take all of the baggage Rodgers brings lol I also really want to see guys liek Fant, Jeudy, Sutton with a actually good QB for once. I want to really see what they can do with a pro bowl level QB. Dislike the person Love him as a QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Jeezla said: Now the #2 FA WR after Davante is Juju. Yuck. Lol u forget about Allen Robinson or Chris Godwin or Michael Gallup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ForTheThumb Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Jeezla said: Not the year to be doing that. The opportunity was this year. Never made sense going Surtain there- bad process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 1ForTheThumb said: The opportunity was this year. Never made sense going Surtain there- bad process Unless they were taking Mac over Fields, looks like they dodged a bullet. Kinda like the Giants taking Saquon. If it was that or take Sam Darnold, I think the Giants did the right thing. Did they get Josh Allen? No, but they weren't going to draft him anyways, so at least they didn't get stuck with Darnold or Josh Rosen. Edited November 22, 2021 by Jeezla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinderFournette Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Jeezla said: Unless they were taking Mac over Fields, looks like they dodged a bullet. Kinda like the Giants taking Saquon. If it was that or take Sam Darnold, I think the Giants did the right thing. Did they get Josh Allen? No, but they weren't going to draft him anyways, so at least they didn't get stuck with Darnold or Josh Rosen. if were ranking the rookie 1st rounders how they played so far. its a clear Mac Jones Trevor Lawrence Zach WIlson Justin Fields Incomplete: Trey Lance. however i think Mac Jones wont improve that much more compared to lawrence. biggest problem with lawrence has been the jags wrs and their dropsies and not seperating along with Bevell being a dip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomaxgrUK Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 16 hours ago, Jeezla said: If you want to go full Arizona, then you also need to hire the QB's college coach to be your HC. Kingsbury never Coached Murray in College. 16 hours ago, Jeezla said: Also, your FO isn't Arizona's. The same FO that drafted Josh Rosen the year before? Not as if they are without their faults. Paton's first 2 picks as a GM - Pat Surtain II, future Pro Bowler. Javonte Williams, future Pro Bowler. Not a bad start. 16 hours ago, Jeezla said: If you strike out on that round 1 QB and take Josh Rosen, you are probably going to be stuck with him for 3 or 4 years. This literally makes no sense. You quoted an example of a player who was drafted in the top 10, then traded the next year, but said that if the Broncos were to do it they'd be stuck with him for 3 or 4 years ................ That is the definition of a contradictory statement. I agree with @broncos67 - if we don't get a top vet QB (i.e Rodgers or Wilson) then I would draft a QB in the 1st round every single year until we know we have a keeper. I would be willing to deal with the cap situation as a means to getting a QB for 15 years like 2 of our divisional rivals have. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeezla Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 hours ago, lomaxgrUK said: Kingsbury never Coached Murray in College. The same FO that drafted Josh Rosen the year before? Not as if they are without their faults. Paton's first 2 picks as a GM - Pat Surtain II, future Pro Bowler. Javonte Williams, future Pro Bowler. Not a bad start. This literally makes no sense. You quoted an example of a player who was drafted in the top 10, then traded the next year, but said that if the Broncos were to do it they'd be stuck with him for 3 or 4 years ................ That is the definition of a contradictory statement. I agree with @broncos67 - if we don't get a top vet QB (i.e Rodgers or Wilson) then I would draft a QB in the 1st round every single year until we know we have a keeper. I would be willing to deal with the cap situation as a means to getting a QB for 15 years like 2 of our divisional rivals have. The ol "it's happened once, it'll probably happen again" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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