Jakuvious Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, SkippyX said: Its neat how there have been 100s of QBs who can have 2 or 3 good games a year and then be mediocre to bad the rest of the way but coaches and commentators think this guy is a rare gem to be polished up into a star. Judge can change them! Jones just needs to be coached up! Yeah, right! I actually do think Jones could be coached into something good. His issues are largely things that are very fixable with proper structure and coaching. The Giants have not been the place for structure or coaching since the Coughlin days, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 The GIants desparately need a new coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Just now, w4rrior723 said: Dude that's what commentators are supposed to say. They're supposed to make it sound like both sides have potential to beat each other. No, they are not supposed to be Daniel Jones and Joe Judge fans. They don't talk about all the good potential of corners getting toasted weekly or linebackers who can't tackle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nex_Gen Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Yeah Daniel Jones isn't the answer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 tampa bay cb are just crushing those screens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Maybe play the TEs as lineman and let the OLs go out for passes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetzger Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 This offense is depressing to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatJaxxenGuy Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Is it just me ? or is there a big influx of teams trying to run offences mainly consisting of dives and screens this season 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 there are a lot of pretty bad offenses. Poor coaching/playcalling with poor OL play and poor QB play. some of those things interact with each other, some are stand alone issues for teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Jetzger said: This offense is depressing to watch. An all too common phrase for Steeler fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Screens are not really supposed to be designed game plan plays. At least not lots of them. You max them out when teams are getting too aggressive in the pass rush. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 that official likely never moved the whole game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
w4rrior723 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, SkippyX said: No, they are not supposed to be Daniel Jones and Joe Judge fans. They don't talk about all the good potential of corners getting toasted weekly or linebackers who can't tackle. They're clearly not fans. They have blatantly criticized the Giants from top down, including Judge and Jones. But of course they want to say some positive things otherwise it tells the viewer it's a one sided game that isn't worth watching, and it also might seem like they are biased against them. Objectively, the original comment I replied to is way offbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakuvious Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, SkippyX said: Screens are not really supposed to be designed game plan plays. At least not lots of them. You max them out when teams are getting too aggressive in the pass rush. I feel like the prevalence of screens right now are coaches watching guys like Reid and Payton call plays, and learning the wrong things. The best play callers in the league are excellent at designing and timing screens. If the D can see it coming, it's useless (unless the D is trash, but then anything will work.) It has to counter aggression or take advantage of blitzes or tight man coverage (so only 1 guy is really watching the screen develop.) A good bubble screen can be good if they're in way off man and you have a talented wideout, but not otherwise. Instead, it's turned into a go to play of the my QB is bad at his job playbook, and it just doesn't work that way. I've been complaining the past few days about how many teams have been running TE screens to slow TEs against zone defenses watching the screen develop, and I'm 100% convinced some guys just saw Andy Reid call some screens to Travis Kelce and were like hey, we should do something like that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apparition Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 He went to the Harvard of the South and still plays like a total dumbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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