-Hope- Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: What happened when the 2 candidate coaches went head-to-head ? The LaFleur-led Packers demolished the Titans 40 - 14 and Mr. Derrick Henry was held under 100yds your posts in this thread do not seem to indicate that you are aware that coach of the year is a one-year award. i've already said that i don't really care and i think it's taylor if anyone, but all this stuff about lafleur's first three seasons or the titans-packers game from last year is a total nonsequitur. they give this thing out annually. it's coach of the year, not coach of the last two years or last three years, lol. Edited January 11, 2022 by -Hope- 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, -Hope- said: your posts in this thread do not seem to indicate that you are aware that coach of the year is a one-year award. I'm just having some fun with it. I did not realize people take this **** as seriously as Winter. Nobody is gonna change their minds about any of these awards - so I'm just lobbing some jarts onto the field (Good thing its a one year award - or else I'd have to bring up the anniversary of Vrabel's punt on 4th and 2 from the Ravens 40) Mike Vrabel is gonna get demolished in the media/by fans for that punt decision and he'll deserve all the criticism. I can't think of anything recent in the NFL that comes close to how disastrous and cowardly that was. 4th and 2 at the Baltimore 40, Derrick Henry on your roster. — Will Warren (@statsbywill) January 10, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Shanedorf said: What happened when the 2 candidate coaches went head-to-head ? The LaFleur-led Packers demolished the Titans 40 - 14 and Mr. Derrick Henry was held under 100yds The Titans didn't play the Packers this year.😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSlim Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, Shanedorf said: I'm just having some fun with it. I did not realize people take this **** as seriously as Winter. Nobody is gonna change their minds about any of these awards - so I'm just lobbing some jarts onto the field (Good thing its a one year award - or else I'd have to bring up the anniversary of Vrabel's punt on 4th and 2 from the Ravens 40) Mike Vrabel is gonna get demolished in the media/by fans for that punt decision and he'll deserve all the criticism. I can't think of anything recent in the NFL that comes close to how disastrous and cowardly that was. 4th and 2 at the Baltimore 40, Derrick Henry on your roster. — Will Warren (@statsbywill) January 10, 2021 Yeah. It’ll be like bringing up LaFleur kicking a FG instead of letting his MVP QB try to convert a 4th and goal down 8 with like two minutes left. ☺️ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanedorf Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, TitanSlim said: Yeah. It’ll be like bringing up LaFleur kicking a FG instead of letting his MVP QB try to convert a 4th and goal down 8 with like two minutes left. exactly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 It has to be Vrabel, although Rich becoming the first interim coach to ever lead a team to the playoffs deserves some votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmittyBacall Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 Say what you will about Zac Taylor, he has really built a great culture here in a short period of time. And despite two bad seasons, the locker room support has never waned once. The vast majority of players they have brought in through FA or the draft are either from from winning organizations, former captains, or both. He’s really been the catalyst behind it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 One of these teams broke the record for most wins against teams with winning records and secured the #1 seed in the AFC. The rest are last in their divisions. Vrabel should run away with this and it shouldn’t even be close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 On 1/12/2022 at 2:59 AM, NYRaider said: It has to be Vrabel, although Rich becoming the first interim coach to ever lead a team to the playoffs deserves some votes. I think it has to be Taylor. The Titans went 11-5 last year and 9-7 the year before that, so it's not like the Titans all of a sudden got good. Cincinnati was 4-11-1 last year, and they went 10-7 this year. COY should go to a coach whose team exceeded expectations. IF Arizona didn't fall apart in the second half of the season, I would have argued that Kliff deserved serious consideration. Maybe McCarthy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I think it has to be Taylor. The Titans went 11-5 last year and 9-7 the year before that, so it's not like the Titans all of a sudden got good. Cincinnati was 4-11-1 last year, and they went 10-7 this year. COY should go to a coach whose team exceeded expectations. IF Arizona didn't fall apart in the second half of the season, I would have argued that Kliff deserved serious consideration. Maybe McCarthy? Nearly everyone had the Colts penciled in to win the AFC South. Nearly everyone said the Titans season was over after losing Henry in week 8. That’s not even mentioning losing Julio and AJ for 7-9 games a piece. I don’t understand how that’s not exceeding expectations. They have the #1 seed, they broke the record for most wins against winning teams, and broke the record for most players used in a season because of injury. No team has had to overcome more than Tennessee. Im also confused at to why the coach of the year should go to someone who was bad last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 26 minutes ago, Mesa_Titan said: Nearly everyone had the Colts penciled in to win the AFC South. Nearly everyone said the Titans season was over after losing Henry in week 8. That’s not even mentioning losing Julio and AJ for 7-9 games a piece. I don’t understand how that’s not exceeding expectations. They have the #1 seed, they broke the record for most wins against winning teams, and broke the record for most players used in a season because of injury. No team has had to overcome more than Tennessee. Im also confused at to why the coach of the year should go to someone who was bad last year? I'm not sure nearly everyone had the Colts winning the AFC South, but I'm not really arguing that. You cite the sheer number of games missed, which is a valid argument but you conveniently ignored the quality of players lost. In terms of playoff bound teams, it appears San Francisco, Las Vegas, Pittsburgh, and Green Bay all lost more quality players then Tennessee did. And the reason I mention that is because Green Bay lost a LOT of core guys this year including David Bakhtiari (16 games), Za'Darius Smith (17 games), Jaire Alexander (13 games), Elgton Jenkins (9 games), etc. I'm not trying to discredit what Vrabel has done. He's easily in the top 5, probably in the top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesa_Titan Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I'm not sure nearly everyone had the Colts winning the AFC South, but I'm not really arguing that. You cite the sheer number of games missed, which is a valid argument but you conveniently ignored the quality of players lost. In terms of playoff bound teams, it appears San Francisco, Las Vegas, Pittsburgh, and Green Bay all lost more quality players then Tennessee did. And the reason I mention that is because Green Bay lost a LOT of core guys this year including David Bakhtiari (16 games), Za'Darius Smith (17 games), Jaire Alexander (13 games), Elgton Jenkins (9 games), etc. I'm not trying to discredit what Vrabel has done. He's easily in the top 5, probably in the top 3. “More quality” is very subjective to whatever their stat is for “quality”. That’s why I ignore it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy86 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 17 hours ago, Mesa_Titan said: “More quality” is very subjective to whatever their stat is for “quality”. That’s why I ignore it. Jaire Alexander and Zadarius Smith were all pros last year in positions where GB were known to be thin, while David Bakhtiari was all pro the last 5 years in a row and Elgton Jenkins while not getting all pro yet has been pretty excellent since year 1. Yosh Nijman who took over had 17 career snaps as a UDFA/practice squad guy. That's 3 of their best 5-6 players, depending on if you put Kenny Clark quite on that same level or not. I'd give it to Vrabel myself, but not by a long distance - I think it's very, very close between him and Lafleur. The sheer bulk of injuries in Tennessee (and an absolutely key one in Henry) put the job he has done tick above for me, and I've been a huge fan of his since watching how he ground that clock down vs NE in the playoffs a few years back. What is clear to my mind is that Taylor and Sirianni, while both doing excellent jobs in their own right and being numbers 3 and 4 for me, are quite a distance back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacerDT55 Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 It will never happen but Mike Tomlin deserves at least a few votes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontTazeMeBro Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Belichick easy. Rookie QB. Best skill player is probably Hunter Henry. There’s no reason this team should be 3rd in point differential. They won a game with 4 of 5 OLinemen out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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