BlaqOptic Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 So the Cameron Jordan HoF topic got me thinking and realizing that this is arguably the best class of 3-4 Defensive Ends, 4-3 Defensive Ends, and 3-4 OLBs in NFL history... So I'm curious as to how people rank their careers as of today... The players in question are... J.J. Watt: 135 Games, 135 Starts, 2 Interceptions, 63 Passes Defensed, 26 Forced Fumbles, 102.0 Sacks, 547 Total Tackles, 177 Tackles For Loss, 292 QB Hits, 1 Safety, 3 Touchdowns, 5x All-Pro, 5x Pro Bowl, 5 Double Digit Sack Seasons, 2 Sack Titles, All-Decade Team, 3x Defensive Player of the Year. Robert Quinn: 155 Games, 134 Starts, 0 Interceptions, 32 Passes Defensed, 32 Forced Fumbles, 100.5 Sacks, 358 Total Tackles, 107 Tackles For Loss, 172 QB Hits, 0 Safeties, 1 Touchdown, 4x All-Pro*, 1x Pro Bowl, 5 Double Digit Sack Seasons. Cameron Jordan: 175 Games, 174 Starts, 2 Interceptions, 54 Passes Defensed, 13 Forced Fumbles, 106.0 Sacks, 571 Total Tackles, 136 Tackles For Loss, 205 QB Hits, 0 Safeties, 1 Touchdown, 1x All-Pro, 7x Pro Bowl, 6 Double Digit Sack Seasons. Cameron Heyward: 165 Games, 130 Starts, 2 Interceptions, 42 Passes Defensed, 7 Forced Fumbles, 67.0 Sacks, 534 Total Tackles, 99 Tackles For Loss, 152 QB Hits, 0 Safeties, 0 Touchdowns, 3x All-Pro*, 5x Pro Bowl, 1 Double Digit Sack Season. Von Miller: 149 Games, 149 Starts, 2 Interceptions, 22 Passes Defensed, 27 Forced Fumbles, 114.5 Sacks, 535 Total Tackles, 151 Tackles For Loss, 232 QB Hits, 0 Safeties, 2 Touchdowns, 3x All-Pro, 8x Pro Bowl, 7 Double Digit Sack Seasons, All-Decade Team, 1x Defensive Rookie of the Year, 1x Super Bowl Champion, 1x Super Bowl MVP. Aldon Smith: 75 Games, 63 Starts, 1 Interceptions, 10 Passes Defensed, 6 Forced Fumbles, 52.5 Sacks, 228 Total Tackles, 56 Tackles For Loss, 103 QB Hits, 1 Safety, 1 Touchdown, 1x All-Pro, 1x Pro Bowl, 2 Double Digit Sack Seasons. Justin Houston: 148 Games, 142 Starts, 4 Interceptions, 33 Passes Defensed, 18 Forced Fumbles, 102.0 Sacks, 482 Total Tackles, 123 Tackles For Loss, 165 QB Hits, 4 Safeties, 2 Touchdowns, 1x All-Pro, 4x Pro Bowl, 4 Double Digit Sack Seasons, 1 Sack Title. Muhammad Wilkerson: 108 Games, 104 Starts, 24 Interceptions, 29 Passes Defensed, 11 Forced Fumbles, 44.5 Sacks, 410 Total Tackles, 71 Tackles For Loss, 103 QB Hits, 1 Safety, 21Touchdown, 0x All-Pro, 1x Pro Bowl, 2 Double Digit Sack Seasons. *Assuming they take an All-Pro nomination this year... So where do you rank them as players? Where do you rank their careers? How do you think each will be remembered? Is my assessment of this class being one of the best ever accurate? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnguy2015 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Watt Miller --- Jordan Houston Quinn Heyward --- Smith Wilkerson 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammymvpknight Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 43 minutes ago, jonnguy2015 said: Watt Miller --- Jordan Houston Quinn Heyward --- Smith Wilkerson Same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingseanjohn Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 5 hours ago, jonnguy2015 said: Watt Miller --- Jordan Houston Quinn Heyward --- Smith Wilkerson Swap Houston and Jordan and I'm good with the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyler735 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 8 hours ago, jonnguy2015 said: Watt Miller --- Jordan Houston Quinn Heyward --- Smith Wilkerson This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iknowcool Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) Watt is the better player, but I think there is an argument for Miller having the better career. Maybe not a strong one and I probably wouldn't be the one to make it, but it exists. Otherwise I agree with the list above, except I'd probably put Heyward over Quinn. Tempted to put him over Houston as well. Just think he's been a very consistent, high-level player for what has often been a very good defense, whereas Houston fell off relatively fast (injuries played a role in that). Edited January 9, 2022 by iknowcool 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tk3 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) everyone sleeping on Heyward just because he doesn't put up sack numbers Watt ----- Von Miller ----- Heyward Jordan Houston Quinn Casey ----- Kerrigan Smith Dareus Wilkerson Also, I'm sure its a typo, but there's no way Wilkerson has 24 career picks If we're including the likes of Wilkerson and Aldon Smith.. I think you've gotta include Ryan Kerrigan and Jurrell Casey. I'd even put Dareus over Wilkerson. It was a phenomenal class Edited January 9, 2022 by Tk3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EAGLES3658 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 12 hours ago, Tk3 said: everyone sleeping on Heyward just because he doesn't put up sack numbers Watt ----- Von Miller ----- Heyward Jordan Houston Quinn Casey ----- Kerrigan Smith Dareus Wilkerson Also, I'm sure its a typo, but there's no way Wilkerson has 24 career picks If we're including the likes of Wilkerson and Aldon Smith.. I think you've gotta include Ryan Kerrigan and Jurrell Casey. I'd even put Dareus over Wilkerson. It was a phenomenal class Good call on Kerrigan. I think you can make an argument that he belongs right there with any of them not named Watt or Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEagle Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Watt --- Miller --- Jordan Heyward --- Houston Quinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Aldon was special man. Really sad to see that talent go up in flames 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 21 hours ago, Tk3 said: Also, I'm sure its a typo, but there's no way Wilkerson has 24 career picks Wilkerson Island 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungBucs15 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 What kills about that draft was the Bucs decided to draft 2 DE's, unfortunately we take Clayborn over Jordan and Bowers in the 2nd. We just never drafted well at that position, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaqOptic Posted January 10, 2022 Author Share Posted January 10, 2022 10 hours ago, Dome said: Wilkerson Island Continent* 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Wilkerson was a shame. He was genuinely close to unstoppable for like half a season. What happened? Apart from...ya know...Jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter2_1 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Watt is the best NFL defensive player I've ever seen live, at his peak. I have to put him top. Then Miller, then Jordan and Heyward 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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