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9 hours ago, jebrick said:

Because they do not have a person waiting in the wings.  If they wanted to reach out and tag Whipple for the job they can't during the college season.  If they have someone in mind, my guess is they have to wait. 

 

I do agree that they need to clean house with OC and WR coach at the very least.

Bottom line is, I would dump Canada immediately.    This entire logic of "not wanting to change things up on Kenny" makes little sense when the offense is as ineffective as its been and Kenny has been pedestrian as he has been.  

Canada is a train wreck.   If we have no one else that can assume playcalling responsibilities the final 7 games, thats a whole other issue with this team.    But no one who is THAT bad at their job should be retained simply because "there is no clear upgrade".   

Thats how mid season firings work.    Youre not firing him to have an immediate improvement.    Youre firing said person because he is utterly incompetent and has proven woefully incapable of handling the job.

Coaches have been fired mid-season for far less.    Im not saying we need to operate like other teams in all cases, but Canada has never been involved in any positive parts of this offense and since he has taken over, we have been quite arguably the worst offense in the league.    Some of that may be talent related, but I dont believe this offense is QUITE as untalented as Canada makes them consistently look.

Fire Canada.   I really dont care who they replace him with the final 7 games.    

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A member of Tomlin's coaching tree was fired by Arizona today over an "incident" in Mexico City. I can't remember if he was the OL coach who was passing around porn and mailed it to the media about a decade ago or not.

It is truly an illustrious group that have coached under Tomlin.

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12 hours ago, CKSteeler said:

A member of Tomlin's coaching tree was fired by Arizona today over an "incident" in Mexico City. I can't remember if he was the OL coach who was passing around porn and mailed it to the media about a decade ago or not.

It is truly an illustrious group that have coached under Tomlin.

So a guy that coached a decade ago here for a couple seasons gets fired for inappropriate behavior this week and you found a way to attribute it back to tomlin? Disingenuous at best but expected I guess. 

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6 minutes ago, Big Snack said:

So a guy that coached a decade ago here for a couple seasons gets fired for inappropriate behavior this week and you found a way to attribute it back to tomlin? Disingenuous at best but expected I guess. 

It was really more of a joke about how pathetic like 90% of Tomlin's coaching hires have been, which is pretty much the undeniable truth. Maybe I should have taken a dig at how Kugler was coaching one of the worst units in the league, carrying on the tradition he started in Pittsburgh all those years ago (where, by the way, he was a member of the 2010 staff that went to the Super Bowl - not that insignificant).

But I guess Kugler was at least still in the league somehow. That's more than can be said of Tomlin's last three offensive coordinators...soon to be four...

It is also funny just how many of his coaches have at one point or another done...questionable things or demonstrated some major character flaws in a public way.

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2 hours ago, Big Snack said:

So a guy that coached a decade ago here for a couple seasons gets fired for inappropriate behavior this week and you found a way to attribute it back to tomlin? Disingenuous at best but expected I guess. 

I have those posts blocked, but reportedly Kugler groped someone. So disingenuous might be a very generous way to describe tying it to Tomlin. 

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3 minutes ago, warfelg said:


 

Some rather interesting bits in here on the roster. 

Eagles were very active during the offseasons when weidl was there. I wonder if he'll bring that kind of influence onto khan. I wonder if we might wake up to a tweet that says the steelers are part of a big trade involving picks weeks before the draft or we're very active trading up and down in the 1st 3 rds. Potentially exciting times for offseason activity

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7 hours ago, August4th said:

Eagles were very active during the offseasons when weidl was there. I wonder if he'll bring that kind of influence onto khan. I wonder if we might wake up to a tweet that says the steelers are part of a big trade involving picks weeks before the draft or we're very active trading up and down in the 1st 3 rds. Potentially exciting times for offseason activity

Im ready for an exciting offseason with major changes.

Beyond wanting it, we NEED it.

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9 hours ago, warfelg said:

I have those posts blocked, but reportedly Kugler groped someone. So disingenuous might be a very generous way to describe tying it to Tomlin. 

How dare someone reference that Tomlin once hired a guy who went on to get fired for groping women in Mexico City. HOW DARE THEY

Of course, if we listen to some people, there is absolutely nothing that we *can* tie to Tomlin or blame him for in the first place.

If people think I'm biased against Tomlin, I defy anyone to name a single instance when Warfelg offered up criticism of the guy. I'm sure over the years there had to have been at least one occasion, but hell if I can think of it.

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Rather interesting tidbit from Steelers.com Asked and Answered this morning:

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SHANE STONE FROM OCEAN CITY, MD: With the Steelers being a picture of longevity when it comes to head coaches, I wonder about the other coaches. Does the team have a history of letting coaches go during the season, or do they typically do so at the end of the season?
ANSWER: Once Dan Rooney assumed primary control over football operations in the mid-1960s, his philosophy was that it always was a bad idea to fire coaches in the middle of the season. His reason was that after you fire a coach in the middle of the season, an interim replacement has to be hired/appointed. Then if the interim hire/appointee has some success, then maybe you are influenced/convinced to hire him full-time even though he might not be the choice if a complete search was conducted. So, Dan Rooney's belief was that if you're going to fire/replace a coach, you do it at the end of the season and then conduct a wide-ranging search for the best possible replacement.

 

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On 11/23/2022 at 11:17 PM, CKSteeler said:

How dare someone reference that Tomlin once hired a guy who went on to get fired for groping women in Mexico City. HOW DARE THEY

Of course, if we listen to some people, there is absolutely nothing that we *can* tie to Tomlin or blame him for in the first place.

If people think I'm biased against Tomlin, I defy anyone to name a single instance when Warfelg offered up criticism of the guy. I'm sure over the years there had to have been at least one occasion, but hell if I can think of it.

is their anything you like about tomlin? and when did your dislike for him start? just curious

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