Packerraymond Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 6'0 190 for Brian Branch. Just don't think that dude is a S, slot CB all day long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: You guys all know that Lukas Van Ness is going to be our pick at #15, right? Only if he improves on that very at his pro-day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Only if he improves on that very at his pro-day. Quay jumped 32, don't really think it's a big deal. Broad plays fine for a 272lb player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 See that Ray? Multiple meetings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, PossibleCabbage said: Would the Packers even be in on Nolan Smith? Incredible athlete but he's smaller than Quay Walker. Like you find a way to use him in house, but I haven't seen anything to indicate that they've moved off of a preference for bigger edges. Barry would find a spot for him. Nose tackle probably. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Quay jumped 32, don't really think it's a big deal. Broad plays fine for a 272lb player. I don't hate it and overall his RAS is excellent, so I can't disagree too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Quay jumped 32, don't really think it's a big deal. Broad plays fine for a 272lb player. Quay's an ILB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Quay's an ILB Still needs short area explosion. Broad plays more toward the motion of defense anyway. Would you say Quay's vert is indicative of his on field explosion? We've got tape of Van Ness converting speed to power and literally putting OT1 and OT2 in the draft on their ***. He's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, incognito_man said: I don't hate it and overall his RAS is excellent, so I can't disagree too much. Haven't seen him in awhile so maybe this brings him back. @Norm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 20 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Still needs short area explosion. Broad plays more toward the motion of defense anyway. Would you say Quay's vert is indicative of his on field explosion? We've got tape of Van Ness converting speed to power and literally putting OT1 and OT2 in the draft on their ***. He's fine. The correlation between success at ILB and Vert isn't remotely near what it is for Edge and Vert. I'm more than fine with Van Ness at this point. I strongly suspect that he just had a bad vert because he had a bad rep and not because he isn't explosive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Packerraymond said: We've taken a short CB, an ILB, and old first round pick. Three trends broken with Gute's first rounders already. I think the "draft high end athletes with good tape" era is where we're in. Good teams are getting more and more into positionless football. Play Nolan at ILB on 1st and 2nd down, put him at the 9 tech on 3rd down. The NFL teams with rigidity are getting passed by the teams with creativity. Our short corner was just how short of the threshhold again? Where was Quay taken and Wyatt? 15th overall? You say things like "good teams" and "positionless football". But you know that is not us. And likely will not be with Barry as DC. I don't see how we would use the 15th overall pick on a player that has not fit what we do on defense in what seems like almost forever. And to be clear? I'd dig it. I like the small edge guys. I like winning quick. I like creativity. But this is a defense that doesn't even run DL stunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas492 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 40 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: Barry would find a spot for him. Nose tackle probably. Not going to lie...this made me laugh out loud at my desk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) I think Van Ness is their guy at Edge at 15. I think you can excuse the vert in part because his athletic background outside of football is hockey and so he probably hasn't had good reasons for jumping between "training for the combine" and "hopscotch when he was 7". LVN could always be gone at 15, or they could always go for a different position but I think he's the top of the tier at that position for Green Bay (Will Anderson is in a different tier). The other thing is that the Iowa S&C program is very specific to "football relevant movements and muscle groups" and while your squat and your deadlift are not wholly unrelated to your vert, it's not necessarily what you train for to maximize for the test. Edited March 3, 2023 by PossibleCabbage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 29 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: I think Van Ness is their guy at Edge at 15. I think you can excuse the vert in part because his athletic background outside of football is hockey and so he probably hasn't had good reasons for jumping between "training for the combine" and "hopscotch when he was 7". LVN could always be gone at 15, or they could always go for a different position but I think he's the top of the tier at that position for Green Bay (Will Anderson is in a different tier). The other thing is that the Iowa S&C program is very specific to "football relevant movements and muscle groups" and while your squat and your deadlift are not wholly unrelated to your vert, it's not necessarily what you train for to maximize for the test. Jack Campbell is intriguing too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximusGluteus Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 56 minutes ago, vegas492 said: Not going to lie...this made me laugh out loud at my desk. same lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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