Cwood is a nerd and so are all the Packer Favorite Prospects: 2023 Draft Discussion Thread

[MacReady]

6 minutes ago, Packerraymond said:

Kelce and Gronk would never have made it to where they did if healthy at the Combine, and they definitely would've been 1st rounders in today's draft world that puts such a heavy focus on athletic testing.

I definitely would have been a first round Hall of Fame safety if I had hair.

See? I can say whatever TF I want, too. Doesn’t make it true.

I’m sure Gates would’ve been a first round pick if he had been a first round pick.

If a frog had wings it wouldn’t bump its butt on the ground. If my dog had wings my dog would be my bird.

Tight ends aren’t worth the risk. Even if they’re great, tight ends don’t win Super Bowls, and they’re not an essential building block.

At this point, the Packers need building blocks.

[incognito_man]

24 minutes ago, Packerraymond said:

Kelce and Gronk would never have made it to where they did if healthy at the Combine, and they definitely would've been 1st rounders in today's draft world that puts such a heavy focus on athletic testing.

I thought Kelce fell because he had a 1st round ability but an undrafted FA coke habit. So it settled in the 3rd round?

[MacReady]

5 minutes ago, incognito_man said:

I thought Kelce fell because he had a 1st round ability but an undrafted FA coke habit. So it settled in the 3rd round?

He’s grasping at straws.

Any time you get to the ifs, you’ve lost the argument.

[Packerraymond]

19 minutes ago, incognito_man said:

I thought Kelce fell because he had a 1st round ability but an undrafted FA coke habit. So it settled in the 3rd round?

There was the "character" concerns buzz, but it's so hard to know for sure. He was and is a party boy for sure, but beyond that I don't think there was much there. He was a Combine scratch for hernia surgery. Didn't workout but you could tell he was a high level athlete from watching him. Gronk too. 

[AlexGreen#20]

17 minutes ago, Outpost31 said:

He’s grasping at straws.

Any time you get to the ifs, you’ve lost the argument.

I've personally spoken with 2 personnel guys who said Gronk was black flagged from their team because of his back. 

While I've never had the conversation about Kelce, there was so much smoke around his off the field issues that draft season, it had to be coming from a literal bonfire. 

[Packerraymond]

6 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said:

I've personally spoken with 2 personnel guys who said Gronk was black flagged from their team because of his back. 

While I've never had the conversation about Kelce, there was so much smoke around his off the field issues that draft season, it had to be coming from a literal bonfire. 

We all know Gronk is 75% bionic at this point. 

 

[MacReady]

7 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said:

I've personally spoken with 2 personnel guys who said Gronk was black flagged from their team because of his back. 

While I've never had the conversation about Kelce, there was so much smoke around his off the field issues that draft season, it had to be coming from a literal bonfire. 

Doesn’t really matter.

I care only about Super Bowls.

There’s not a Super Bowl Gronkowski won that he wouldn’t have won without the DL/OL/QB that was also on the roster.

Same with Kelce.

So until our OL, DL and QB are good enough, I wouldn’t take a TE in the top 24.

[Brat&Beer]

Daniel Jeremiah thinks there could be as many as 4 TE's drafted in the 1st round and as many as 11 taken in the 1st 3 rounds. The TE class is as good as the Safety class is bad.

[PossibleCabbage]

Just now, Brat&Beer said:

Daniel Jeremiah thinks there could be as many as 4 TE's drafted in the 1st round and as many as 11 taken in the 1st 3 rounds. The TE class is as good as the Safety class is bad.

I think he's wrong.  DJ regularly has a tight end real high on his board that lasts into the 50s.  It's the least valuable position of the non-specialists and guys who are better blockers than pass catchers aren't going to go ahead of actually impactful players, particularly since that TE isn't going to do a whole lot for a few years since it's the slowest developing position in football.

[OneTwoSixFive]

5 hours ago, Outpost31 said:

I care only about Super Bowls.

So on average you are happy just three times in your lifetime, maybe only two if we are talking SB wins (twice that if you count years where you lost at the SB). Not much joy over a lifetime there.

Enjoying football is far more than Lombardi's, that's just the icing on the cake as a fan.

[packfanfb]

10 hours ago, Arthur Penske said:

Why didn’t this guy have better stats at Georgia?

 

Because Brock Bowers is the best TE in CFB.

[Mr Bad Example]

2 hours ago, OneTwoSixFive said:

So on average you are happy just three times in your lifetime, maybe only two if we are talking SB wins (twice that if you count years where you lost at the SB). Not much joy over a lifetime there.

Enjoying football is far more than Lombardi's, that's just the icing on the cake as a fan.

I'm not the only one here but viewing sports as a TV show rather than some foundational competition really increases one's enjoyment. 

 

 

 

[Kepler]

Actually I'm starting to temper my enthusiasm for Darnell Washington because TE's are usually slow to develop. Maybe we should pick him up after some other team develops him lol

[Arthur Penske]

 

[MaximusGluteus]

1 hour ago, Kepler said:

Actually I'm starting to temper my enthusiasm for Darnell Washington because TE's are usually slow to develop. Maybe we should pick him up after some other team develops him lol

Yeah GB isn't taking him at 15 and he won't be there at 45.  Hell, some stupid team might even draft him before 15, and then when he's not Travis Kelce by year 3 they'll either trade him or not pick up his 5th year option and then GB can sign him to play the Big Dog role.