squire12 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, CWood21 said: I wasn't arguing that it was different. I'm saying if you're the Packers, you probably view the 2023 season as a "lost cause" and your biggest goal is to make sure Love succeeds. Anything beyond that is just a cherry on top. I really wouldn't be surprised if our first 3 picks were all used on offensive players. I think there's a very real chance that we end up taking JSN, Darnell Washington, and an OL with our first 3 picks. Splitting the cap hit allows more flexibility for in season moves. Buying a player that someone wants to move is more doable with more cap space in 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starchisaga Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 41 minutes ago, dafreak said: Agree with this, and at some point couldn't Rodgers simply say "trade me by this day or I am retiring"? True! I hadn’t thought of that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, squire12 said: Splitting the cap hit allows more flexibility for in season moves. Buying a player that someone wants to move is more doable with more cap space in 23 Yes and because the cap grows... if u add the total and divide by the sum of the two years salary cap, it is lower than the proportional cost of 23. Dollars are less valuable in 24 Edited March 19, 2023 by HokieHigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 10 hours ago, fattlipp said: So if we play hardball and Rodgers forces his way back.. How does it really affect us, we know the Jets go from 11-6 to 6-11 Us? We have to trade Bak, Smith and Clark probably post June 1 to be compliant? Maybe Jones? No, we gain almost $9m in cap space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreak Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Sandy said: No, we gain almost $9m in cap space. This is a game that the Packers simply should not be interested in playing, for many reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HokieHigh Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 30 minutes ago, dafreak said: This is a game that the Packers simply should not be interested in playing, for many reasons. I think the consensus here is that the packers are in a no-lose situation with the exception of taking a lowball offer before september. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreak Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, HokieHigh said: I think the consensus here is that the packers are in a no-lose situation with the exception of taking a lowball offer before september. From my experience no-lose situations always find a way to bit you in the ***.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattlipp Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 We’d have the best backup in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 I mean the downside for the Packers is probably "Rodgers retires and they get nothing in compensation". But knowing how petty Rodgers is, this is pretty unlikely. He's also not going to show up to OTAs, camps, etc. when he doesn't absolutely have to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattlipp Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sandy said: No, we gain almost $9m in cap space. I kinda mean in 2024, biggest concern is being able to extend Gary. and woudnt we have to take on an option by the start of the season that would increase that number. Edited March 19, 2023 by fattlipp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fattlipp Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Are there rules for retiring and unretiring, can ARod retire now and unreturned week 3 and force us to make cap moves, or is there a deadline/timeline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreak Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, PossibleCabbage said: I mean the downside for the Packers is probably "Rodgers retires and they get nothing in compensation". But knowing how petty Rodgers is, this is pretty unlikely. He's also not going to show up to OTAs, camps, etc. when he doesn't absolutely have to. Wouldn't a petty Rodgers retire so Packers get nothing in compensation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40Year Pack Fan Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, fattlipp said: Are there rules for retiring and unretiring, can ARod retire now and unreturned week 3 and force us to make cap moves, or is there a deadline/timeline. Players do sign retirement papers, but have never heard of one reneging afterwards.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossibleCabbage Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, dafreak said: Wouldn't a petty Rodgers retire so Packers get nothing in compensation? If he actually retires he's going to be the second name on the marquee when it comes to his HoF class, which he would never tolerate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, fattlipp said: I kinda mean in 2024, biggest concern is being able to extend Gary. and woudnt we have to take on an option by the start of the season that would increase that number. We'd start 2024 around net zero in cap space. Rodgers could retire or be traded, and a substantial dead hit (around $70m) would be split between 2024 and 2025. Since the cap goes up between $25m and $30m each of the next two offseasons, this is digestible. We can pretty easily clear about $70m in space next season, which is plenty of space to extend Gary and Love. For the second question, no. Trading Rodgers gives him a 2023 cap hit of $40.3m. If we activate his option and keep him on the roster, his 2023 cap hit is only $31.6m. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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