Rodgers to the Jets Trade Discussion

[MacReady]

15 minutes ago, incognito_man said:

Yeah, scientists like this dude who dedicate their lives to being loyal only to the truth as it reveals itself are DEFINITELY wrong, and the entertainment industry filled with people who are loyal only to the last thing that captures their fascination and provides a pathway to personal glory and prominence are DEFINITELY correct.

https://www.nist.gov/blogs/taking-measure/how-jfk-assassination-bullets-were-digitally-preserved-nist

He works for the CIA.

But seriously, scientists as well as theists suffer from the same innately human desire of wanting to be right. They find their own affirmations that are not always on the right track, but stretch them to fit their preconceived notions of the truth.

Evidence: You just posted an article about a digital bullet as proof that a specific man fired that bullet.

Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone. That’s a fact. Oswald may have fired a shot. It’s more likely he had nothing to do with it, and that someone fired the gun from that location after having air tight evidence to back up that it was Oswald who did it.

None of what you just posted has literally any bearing on whether or not Oswald killed Kennedy.

Edited January 29, 2023 by Outpost31

[Old Guy]

1 hour ago, mikemike778 said:

That's just silly.

Rodgers was back-to-back MVP. The entire point of roster building is to give yourself a shot at a title. Rodgers was considered the consensus best player in the league. Hindsight is great but going into 2022 Rodgers gave you a chance of winning a title, a chance you might not get again. Obviously with hindsight, we were better off trading but with hindsight you would win the lottery every week. 

If the front office make the decision we need to move on from Rodgers and restructure the team then that's what they should do. Which means take the best offer. If the best offer is a mid rounder then they should take it.

Draft capital really isn't that important. The picks could bust anyway. If draft picks were the be all and end all then every team would tank once out of contention. Post Rodgers we should restructure team, clean up the cap that probably means a couple of down years so you get great picks anyway.

I'm pretty sure we would get more than a mid rounder. I reckon it would be something like a late 1st with a conditional pick depending on whether he comes back in 2024.  But that's not really the point. If the strategic move is to move on and you can't get more than a mid rounder then you take it, accept the all-in didn't work and carry on.

Using your logic if a first rounder busts then you must sack the GM as he has lost a first rounder.

 

 

It isn't hindsight for me or many others on this site. WE knew we weren't winning a Championship with Rodgers and openly said so. 

If he can only get a mid-round pick for Rodgers, his time should be over. 

[Old Guy]

1 hour ago, NFLGURU said:

He did act alone.  No credible evidence he didnt.

You have got to be ****ting me. Go look at the Zapruder film and ask yourself how Jackie Kennedy wasn't struck by the kill shot bullet if it came from above and behind JFK's right side. 

The information they just released all but implicated the CIA was involved too! LOL

Also, look closely about 5 seconds before the kill shot. Kennedy was struck in the throat, from in front of him. The shooter was on the grassy knoll, and I know who it was. He worked for the CIA and at the time was telling people he was running some company, but nobody could prove it. He also didn't remember where he was when Kennedy was assassinated. There wasn't a single person from that generation who didn't know where they were when Kennedy was shot. It would be like asking a person where they were when they heard about 9/11 not remembering. 

Edited January 29, 2023 by Old Guy

[CWood21]

What in the…

[HighCalebR]

I think its very apt this conversation is happening in a Rodgers thread.

[MortexLion]

26 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

What in the…

I know right.. jumped in here to see you guys talk about trading Rodgers and I see you guys are talking about jfk lol.. and I doubt you guys get two first round picks for rogers and that contract 

Edited January 29, 2023 by MortexLion

[MacReady]

9 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

What in the…

 

[HighCalebR]

2 minutes ago, MortexLion said:

I know right.. jumped in here to see you guys talk about trading rogers and I see you guys are talking about jfk lol.. and I doubt you guys get two first round picks for rogers and that contract 

We don't have a rogers. so I concur.

[NFLGURU]

43 minutes ago, Outpost31 said:

He works for the CIA.

But seriously, scientists as well as theists suffer from the same innately human desire of wanting to be right. They find their own affirmations that are not always on the right track, but stretch them to fit their preconceived notions of the truth.

Evidence: You just posted an article about a digital bullet as proof that a specific man fired that bullet.

Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone. That’s a fact. Oswald may have fired a shot. It’s more likely he had nothing to do with it, and that someone fired the gun from that location after having air tight evidence to back up that it was Oswald who did it.

None of what you just posted has literally any bearing on whether or not Oswald killed Kennedy.

Nonsense.

When you get a chance watch this video by Gerald Posner.  The best investigative reporter out there.  Its long, but he addresses all your delusional theories and myths in this case.  It's an education and clears through all the media driven horses*it put out over the past 60 years.   Now back to Rodgers.

 

[{Family Ghost}]

31 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

What in the…

This forum is out of control

[MacReady]

18 minutes ago, NFLGURU said:

Nonsense.

When you get a chance watch this video by Gerald Posner.  The best investigative reporter out there.  Its long, but he addresses all your delusional theories and myths in this case.  It's an education and clears through all the media driven horses*it put out over the past 60 years.   Now back to Rodgers.

 

Does any of it go over why Oswald did what he did and does any of it irrefutably debunk the possibility there was more to it than just one single person deciding to kill a President?

This is the single greatest reason why I don’t believe the official narrative. I’ve never been given a reason why Oswald did it.

 

[NFLGURU]

1 minute ago, Outpost31 said:

Does any of it go over why Oswald did what he did and does any of it irrefutably debunk the possibility there was more to it than just one single person deciding to kill a President?

This is the single greatest reason why I don’t believe the official narrative. I’ve never been given a reason why Oswald did it.

 

Oswald was a born loser.  He thought the world owed him something.  He hated the US because he couldn't make ends meet.  He actually left the Marines and defected to Russia(who does that), they didn't want him either.  He had no friends, and his marriage was in trouble with 2 kids and he couldn't hold a job.  This was Oswalds chance to hurt the US.  This wasn't as much about killing John Kennedy as it was about killing the US President.  He hated his life and blamed the US for it.  Oswald had a lot of mental problems as a kid.  His mom neglected him really bad, today he would have been red flagged as a kid.  Posner goes into depth about Oswald and his history.  He was a society loser  his whole life.

[CWood21]

Take it to TAPT.

[MacReady]

10 minutes ago, NFLGURU said:

Oswald was a born loser.  He thought the world owed him something.  He hated the US because he couldn't make ends meet.  He actually left the Marines and defected to Russia(who does that), they didn't want him either.  He had no friends, and his marriage was in trouble with 2 kids and he couldn't hold a job.  This was Oswalds chance to hurt the US.  This wasn't as much about killing John Kennedy as it was about killing the US President.  He hated his life and blamed the US for it.  Oswald had a lot of mental problems as a kid.  His mom neglected him really bad, today he would have been red flagged as a kid.  Posner goes into depth about Oswald and his history.  He was a society loser  his whole life.

Convenient you left out his October of '63 meeting with the KGB. And how that same year Mexico helped the US wiretap the Soviet embassy in Mexico.

If Oswald had anything to do with it, it was by the direction of the KGB or the CIA.

We should have had all the answers in 2017. We didn't. We should have had the rest of it in 2022. We didn't.

We've been fed redacted information ever since 1992 law that required the government to release all information related to it.

People are being protected, agencies are being protected.

That's not necessary if it was one single loser deciding one day to kill the President, and succeeding another day.

 

[MacReady]

15 minutes ago, CWood21 said:

Take it to TAPT.

Objection, your honor.

This is relevant in the discussion. If the United States Government can lie about the truth of the assassination of a President and keep that lie revealed for 50 plus years, the Green Bay Packers can withhold trade discussions regarding a ****ing quarterback.