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MNF Week 17: Buffalo Bills @ Cincinnati Bengals


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7 minutes ago, Trentwannabe said:

 

For example if Buffalo and KC win this weekend, they would randomly remove a Chiefs game from the record. Could be a win or a loss, could even be the Bills win over KC if truly random. 

I think it's a terrible idea if thats actually the plan and I don't trust the NFL to have full transparency in anyway

This idea might be the worst one of all and that's saying something.

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11 minutes ago, Trentwannabe said:

If I understood the clip correctly, I think the idea would be if necessary, randomly "remove" one teams game so that everyone has the same games played.

For example if Buffalo and KC win this weekend, they would randomly remove a Chiefs game from the record. Could be a win or a loss, could even be the Bills win over KC if truly random. 

I think it's a terrible idea if thats actually the plan and I don't trust the NFL to have full transparency in anyway

This is....awful.

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21 minutes ago, Louis Friend said:

At least you are finally being honest about it instead of saying that playing the game out and pushing back playoffs, canceling pro bowl somehow benefits all teams. It doesn't. It benefits 2-3 teams in the AFC. 

Yes it benefits the best 3/4 teams in the AFC playoff picture in KC, Buff, Cincy and the Ravens. I think the integrity of the postseason and who the champion is is more important then the pro bowl or pushing some stuff back a week. Because if the Bills lose out on the 1 seed over a technicality and then have to travel to Arrowhead in the AFCCG, there will be an asterisk that the game might’ve/could’ve/should’ve been in Western NY. 
but like everyone’s said; it’s not going to be fair. 

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7 minutes ago, Broncofan said:

If a patient is sick enough to need intubation followed by proning, their oxygenation has to be bad enough they wouldn’t be weaned off sedation (and often require neuromuscular paralysis).  With that info the chances the info being relayed about neurological recovery is pretty much nil.    That’s my point.

Which is entirely inconsistent with reports that he's gone from 100% O2 to 50% O2.

The family not specifying that the positive signs were expressly neurological has no impact on the other valid data points that we do have about his neurological condition.

I would agree with@MikeT14's original post noting it sounds like he's slowly getting better. Obviously not a guarantee, but the correct read from what we've seen so far IMO.

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1 hour ago, The BILLievers said:

Reporter

says the #NFL is considering calling the #Bills vs #Bengals a “no contest” and then determining seeding via a “random number generator”. Audio clip below.
 

Not sure how that would work but will post the audio link when back at a desktop. 

Somehow the Jags get the #1 seed

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1 minute ago, Jakuvious said:

At this point just give Jacksonville the bye for fun (because they will absolutely beat Josh Dobbs) and so we don't have to decide who gets screwed between Cincy, Buffalo, and KC. We can all be screwed together.

Then it will be about who has homefield over who, I promise you. It has been an unending argument.

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1 minute ago, BofaDeez54927 said:

I'm imagining the scene in Vegas Vacation with the odd casino games; high card, I'm thinking of a number, Rochambeau, etc. Are they coming next? 

Do the hard thing and move on already. 

 

I’m thinking of a number!!!!! 😂

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21 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said:

Which is entirely inconsistent with reports that he's gone from 100% O2 to 50% O2.

The family not specifying that the positive signs were expressly neurological has no impact on the other valid data points that we do have about his neurological condition.

I would agree with@MikeT14's original post noting it sounds like he's slowly getting better. Obviously not a guarantee, but the correct read from what we've seen so far IMO.

Aspiration pneumonitis is the most common cause of oxygenation failure in this case.   He was proned overnight.  The timing of improvement this morning fits with that sequence.    The natural history is that in healthy patients it often recovers with supportive therapy.   But needing proning is a sign it was severe enough that it also will delay neurological prognostication.  While at the same time very likely to recover.  I say this with 20+ years working in the ICU.   The info coming out now is certainly not likely to be neurologically related given the timing and need to be proned.   That’s why the caution is going out.  
 

Removing the oxygenation problem helps get to the next stage of determining severity neurological injury. Ultimately in otherwise healthy patients it’s the major factor and only long term determinant in recovery - as other organs almost always recover (as we are seeing here).  But even without that severe lung injury getting news on neurological signs that soon would be rare for patients needing intubation because of being in the coooling window, and far more likely getting news on improving oxygenation.   But even then until they’re ready to take him off deep sedation (which wouldn’t happen with the need for proning and such high oxygen), we just don’t know.   We can hope - but the fear is still also very real.  

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Just now, Broncofan said:

Aspiration pneumonitis is the most common cause of oxygenation failure in this case.   He was proned overnight.  The timing of improvement this morning fits with that sequence.    I say this with 20+ years working in the ICU.   The info is certainly not likely to be neurologically related guven the timing and need to be proned.   That’s why the caution is going out.  
 

Removing the oxygenation problem helps get to the next stage of determining severity neurological injury. But even without that lung injury getting news that soon would be rare, and far more likely getting news on improving oxygenation.   But even then until they’re ready to take him off deep sedation (which wouldn’t happen with the need for proning and such high oxygen), we just don’t know.   We can hope - but the fear is still very real.  

I appreciate your perspective.

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