Official 2024 QB Thread

[beekay414]

4 minutes ago, Bullet Club said:

Is Sanders that good?

We'll find out. He's got the arm to make all the throws needed and his accuracy was great at Jackson State. If he can translate that to success at Colorado, he'll easily be a top 5 QB in this class.

[Mox]

2 minutes ago, beekay414 said:

We'll find out. He's got the arm to make all the throws needed and his accuracy was great at Jackson State. If he can translate that to success at Colorado, he'll easily be a top 5 QB in this class.

I haven't watched him play at all. If he has that many pro traits that's cool.

[beekay414]

3 minutes ago, Bullet Club said:

I haven't watched him play at all. If he has that many pro traits that's cool.

Obviously just highlights so you can only take so much away from them but you can see the arm strength and ball placement in the video well enough. You can also see that he's had some top tier coaching with his fundamentals and how to throw a great ball. The ball just spins out of his hand beautifully. His footwork can get a bit happy when he's facing pressure but that's an issue that a lot of young QB prospects have.

[MWil23]

2 minutes ago, beekay414 said:

Obviously just highlights so you can only take so much away from them but you can see the arm strength and ball placement in the video well enough. You can also see that he's had some top tier coaching with his fundamentals and how to throw a great ball. The ball just spins out of his hand beautifully. His footwork can get a bit happy when he's facing pressure but that's an issue that a lot of young QB prospects have.

Measurements will be important for him as well. He was listed at 6’1 and 198.

[beekay414]

5 minutes ago, MWil23 said:

Measurements will be important for him as well. He was listed at 6’1 and 198.

Absolutely. He's not a flawless prospect by any means but he's a viable NFL QB prospect as it stands. We'll see how he does vs FBS level competition but, right now, I'm basing it off his tools and tape against lesser talent. I think I just love how beautiful the ball is that he throws. He's got stuff he's gotta work on, for certain.

[Dr A W Niloc]

     Based on the numbers, these may be The Magnificent Seven in 2024:

                                                                        | A  A  R
Rank 2022 DCD  Buzz 40Yd  2024 Rookie QBs  College  Pstn 2022  Tall Lbs | r  c  u  I
     Team Rtg                                            Sced           | m  c  n  Q
                                                                        |
 1st 14th 1st  95.0 4.56  Caleb Williams   USC       QB1  -17  6'1" 215 | 4  4  5  5
 2nd 39th 2nd  93.7 4.55  Drake Maye       S Crla    QB2  -11  6'4" 220 | 4  5  5  4
17th  8th  34  79.3 4.64 ^Cameron Rising   Utah     QB17   -9  6'2" 218 | 5  4  4  3
21st 35th  44  73.1 4.73  Kedon Slovis     USC/Pitt QB21  -18  6'3" 215 | 4  4  4  4
 3rd ----  18  88.1 4.65  Shedeur Sanders  Jaxon St  QB3 ----  6'2" 215 | 4  4  4  3
 5th  7th 4th  87.1 4.70 :Quinn Ewers      Texas     QB5   -1  6'2" 206 | 3  4  3  2
 7th 39th  20  84.9 4.78  Spencer Rattler  S Crla    QB7  -11  6'1" 215 | 5  4  3  1

 

 

 

[Mox]

19 minutes ago, Dr A W Niloc said:

     Based on the numbers, these may be The Magnificent Seven in 2024:

                                                                        | A  A  R
Rank 2022 DCD  Buzz 40Yd  2024 Rookie QBs  College  Pstn 2022  Tall Lbs | r  c  u  I
     Team Rtg                                            Sced           | m  c  n  Q
                                                                        |
 1st 14th 1st  95.0 4.56  Caleb Williams   USC       QB1  -17  6'1" 215 | 4  4  5  5
 2nd 39th 2nd  93.7 4.55  Drake Maye       S Crla    QB2  -11  6'4" 220 | 4  5  5  4
17th  8th  34  79.3 4.64 ^Cameron Rising   Utah     QB17   -9  6'2" 218 | 5  4  4  3
21st 35th  44  73.1 4.73  Kedon Slovis     USC/Pitt QB21  -18  6'3" 215 | 4  4  4  4
 3rd ----  18  88.1 4.65  Shedeur Sanders  Jaxon St  QB3 ----  6'2" 215 | 4  4  4  3
 5th  7th 4th  87.1 4.70 :Quinn Ewers      Texas     QB5   -1  6'2" 206 | 3  4  3  2
 7th 39th  20  84.9 4.78  Spencer Rattler  S Crla    QB7  -11  6'1" 215 | 5  4  3  1

 

 

 

I like Kedon but he's looked pretty bad the last few years.

[Dr A W Niloc]

44 minutes ago, Bullet Club said:

I like Kedon but he's looked pretty bad the last few years.

Hasn't really been the same since his shoulder injury.

[BetterCallSaul]

Absolutely love Will Rogers. He is my sleeper to take the big jump into stardom next year.

[Dr A W Niloc]

      Here are the top five QBs "by the numbers":

===  SIS On Target Percentage by Throw Depth Chart  ===

   Air   |         On Target % by Throw Depth
  Yards  | 
   31+   |    55.6%   | 45.8% | 45.0%  | 41.2%  | 35.0%
21 to 30 |    53.5%   | 50.0% | 62.5%  | 54.5%  | 72.2%
16 to 20 |    54.5%   | 63.2% | 78.6%  | 73.7%  | 46.2%
11 to 15 |    61.8%   | 72.6% | 60.8%  | 70.3%  | 58.8%
 6 to 10 |    61.9%   | 83.1% | 74.5%  | 74.7%  | 69.4%
 1 to 5  |    70.8%   | 82.6% | 79.5%  | 78.9%  | 82.3%
         |            |       |        |        |  
   SIS   |   Anthony  | Bryce |  C.J.  | Hendon | Will
         | Richardson | Young | Stroud | Hooker | Levis
         |            |       |        |        | 
Release: |    3.18s   | 3.02s | 2.92s  | 2.60s  | 2.58s 
40 Time: |    4.43s   | 4.52s | 4.74s  | 4.77s  | 4.72s

      Richardson (who only makes sense in Carolina or Baltimore) and Young hold the ball longer, buying time with their legs.  The difference is that Young is a passer, more yardstick oriented than C.J. Stroud.  While Richardson uses his speed to find running lanes, the vertically challenged Bryce uses them to find passing lanes.  Young will do fine in Houston, with or without great blocking.

      Hooker and Levis are pocket passers, both requiring adequate protection.  Hooker will appeal to a broader market because he doesn't require a certain kind of target.  Levis is like an aborted evolutionary offshoot, symbiotically reliant on two disappearing subspecies:  YAC receivers and deep threats.  It will be difficult to find a home for him, especially among low end franchises.  He shouldn't drop further than Tampa Bay at #19, though.

      Stroud is the middle ground, adaptable to and adoptable by virtually any franchise with half decent pass blocking.  C.J. is not the possession QB that Young is but he is better downfield, meaning that his RBs won't see as many 8-man boxes.  This may explain why the Colts have been Jonesing for Stroud all year.

 

 

Edited April 1, 2023 by Dr A W Niloc

[incognito_man]

On 3/22/2023 at 10:56 AM, beekay414 said:

Obviously just highlights so you can only take so much away from them but you can see the arm strength and ball placement in the video well enough. You can also see that he's had some top tier coaching with his fundamentals and how to throw a great ball. The ball just spins out of his hand beautifully. His footwork can get a bit happy when he's facing pressure but that's an issue that a lot of young QB prospects have.

Dang. He's out there making 20-50yd hand-offs with that accuracy. Some beautiful touch.

[beekay414]

9 minutes ago, incognito_man said:

Dang. He's out there making 20-50yd hand-offs with that accuracy. Some beautiful touch.

Accuracy and the way the ball spins out of his hand won't be a question. It's one of the prettiest balls I've seen in some time. You can tell Deion's paid from some high level coaching for his son.

[incognito_man]

13 minutes ago, beekay414 said:

Accuracy and the way the ball spins out of his hand won't be a question. It's one of the prettiest balls I've seen in some time. You can tell Deion's paid from some high level coaching for his son.

Whoa, wait that's his kid?

That's awesome. Did not know that.

[beekay414]

3 minutes ago, incognito_man said:

Whoa, wait that's his kid?

That's awesome. Did not know that.

[Ozzy]

12 minutes ago, incognito_man said:

Whoa, wait that's his kid?

That's awesome. Did not know that.

What world you been living in, dude was productive the last two seasons and considering how much attention Deion gets I thought everyone knew that was his kid.

Shedeur played well but he did lose the two biggest games of the season the past two years, yeah was only the Celebration Bowl but both were losses, and generally speaking he went up against zero guys who will be NFL defensive backs outside of his teammate Hunter who is now his teammate on Colorado.

 

His real development and QB ability will be shown when he is at Colorado.  Originally he was only a FAU recruit, then when his dad was the HC hire at Jackson State he went there with him, I think he was maybe a 3 star guy, but sure has played great the last two years but had a stacked team against not stacked competition, next year will show a lot more about him.  

 

The 2024 class is totally loaded so to pretend he is top 5 already, no way that is true.  Especially since Colorado brought in transfers but not sure any of them are some great WR, got a few guys from USF who might be good but Kevin Coleman Jr his teammate on Jackson State went to Louisville, and Hooks was decent, we will see how are his targets at Colorado.  Heck Hunter if he plays both ways might be his most dangerous WR on the team, that might be a good thing but also might not be.  Maybe that stretch TE Traore could be a good weapon, K. Smoke was just ok on UK and Wilkerson was awesome on Jackson State as a RB.