Trojan's '23 Mock Draft [update Draft day]

[Trentwannabe]

Love the Wright pick, don't like the Dell pick in round 2 though. 

[Trentwannabe]

5 hours ago, Trentwannabe said:

Love the Wright pick, don't like the Dell pick in round 2 though. 

I have now changed my mind on this after seeing @goldfishwars post about him and seeing his release. 

[vikes635]

yuck

[Dr.O]

Tippman over Wypler and we’re golden

[scar988]

On 4/4/2023 at 6:14 PM, Trojan said:

 

8

ATL

ATL

Peter Skoronski

LG/LT

Northwestern

Can't see the Falcons passing on Carter here. But Skoronski is a solid pick if he's not there.

[ttitansfan4life]

Looks good to me. Offense needs talent and you added it.

[Trojan]

I was just looking over my list of prospects to see who I might have been higher on at the start and forgot to include, and Isaiah Foskey pops out as a big snub. I like him quiet a bit and to not have him in the first two rounds is incorrect. I'm not going to revise it, but MIN (Hendon Hooker at 23) could be the start of Foskey's range and either of the Chiefs picks for refined range. To make it easy I'd have the Chiefs second rounder Foskey to not interrupt the rest of the mock, but I really  feel he'd be gone by then. Minnesota doing a trade down and target him, then using the compensation to move back up for Hooker also makes a lot of sense to me.

[Suffering_Bills]

Can't see Dell in the 2nd for Buffalo. Darnell Wright is great in the 1st.

[HuskieBear]

what are the trades? if it's just Seattle's 2nd to move back 11 spots its pretty terrible. We moved from 20 to 11 two years ago for JF1 and had to give up 2 first, a fourth and a fifth, and this is to move further up. this trade would start there

[Trojan]

1.001 — Carolina Panthers — Bryce Young, QB Alabama
1.002 — Houston Texans — TRADE || HOU -> 1.002 | IND -> 1.004 + 2.035
1.002 — Indianapolis Colts — Will Levis, QB Kentucky
1.003 — Arizona Cardinals — Will Anderson, EDGE Alabama
1.004 — Indianapolis Colts — TRADE || IND -> 1.004 + 2.035  | HOU -> 1.002
1.004 — Houston Texans — Tyree Wilson, EDGE Texas Tech
1.005 — Seattle Seahawks — Nolan Smith, EDGE Georgia
1.006 — Detroit Lions — TRADE || DET -> 1.006  | TEN -> 1.011 + 2024 1st round pick
1.006 — Tennessee Titans — C.J. Stroud, QB The Ohio State
1.007 — Las Vegas Raiders — Jalen Carter, DT Georgia
1.008 — Atlanta Falcons — Bijan Robinson, RB Texas
1.009 — Chicago Bears — TRADE || CHI -> 1.009 + 2.053 | WAS -> 1.016 + 2.047 + Chase Young
1.009 — Washington Commanders — Devon Witherspoon, CB Illinois
1.010 — Philadelphia Eagles — Peter Skoronski, OL Northwestern
1.011 — Tennessee Titans — TRADE || TEN -> 1.011 + 2024 1st round pick| DET -> 1.006
1.011 — Detroit Lions — Anthony Richardson, QB Florida
1.012 — Houston Texans —TRADE || HOU -> 1.012 + 4.104 | TBB -> 1.019 + 2.50
1.012 — Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Darnell Wright, OT Tennessee
1.013 — Green Bay Packers — Christian Gonzalez, CB Oregon
1.014 — New England Patriots — Lukas Van Ness, DE Iowa
1.015 — New York Jets — Paris Johnson, OT The Ohio State
1.016 — Washington Commanders — TRADE || WAS -> 1.016 + 2.047 + Chase Young | CHI -> 1.009 + 2.053
1.016 — Chicago Bears — Myles Murphy, DE Clemson
1.017 — Pittsburgh Steelers — Joey Porter Jr., CB Penn State
1.018 — Detroit Lions — Brian Branch, DB Alabama
1.019 — Tampa Bay Buccaneers — TRADE || TBB -> 1.019 + 2.50 | HOU -> 1.012 + 4.104
1.019 — Houston Texans —Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR The Ohio State
1.020 — Seattle Seahawks — Adetomiwa Adebawore, DL Northwestern
1.021 — Los Angeles Chargers — Jordan Addison, WR USC
1.022 — Baltimore Ravens — Broderick Jones, OT Georgia
1.023 — Minnesota Vikings — TRADE || MIN -> 1.023 | KCC -> 1.031 + 3.095 + 6.178
1.023 — Kansas City Chiefs — Zay Flowers, WR Boston College
1.024 — Jacksonville Jaguars — O’Cyrus Torrence, OG Florida
1.025 — New York Giants — John Michael-Schmitz, C Minnesota
1.026 — Dallas Cowboys — Michael Mayer, TE Notre Dame
1.027 — Buffalo Bills — Jack Campbell, MLB Iowa
1.028 — Cincinnati Bengals — Dalton Kincaid, TE Utah
1.029 — New Orleans Saints — Keion White, DE Georgia Tech
1.030 — Philadelphia Eagles — Bryan Bresee, DT Clemson
1.031 — Kansas City Chiefs — TRADE || KCC -> 1.031 + 3.095 + 6.178 | MIN -> 1.023
1.031 — Minnesota Vikings — Deonte Banks, CB Maryland

2.032 — Pittsburgh Steelers — Anton Harrison, OT Oklahoma
2.033 — Houston Texans — Calijah Kancey, DT Pittsburgh
2.034 — Arizona Cardinals — Steve Avila, OG TCU
2.035 — Houston Texans — Cody Mauch, IOL North Dakota State
2.036 — Los Angeles Rams — Will McDonald IV, EDGE Iowa State
2.037 — Seattle Seahawks — Joe Tippmann, IOL Wisconsin
2.038 — Las Vegas Raiders — Mazi Smith, NT Michigan
2.039 — Carolina Panthers — Jonathan Mingo, WR Ole Miss
2.040 — New Orleans Saints — Keeanu Benton, NT Wisconsin
2.041 — Tennessee Titans — Quentin Johnston, WR TCU
2.042 — Green Bay Packers — Darnell Washington, TE Georgia
2.043 — New York Jets — Daiyan Henley, LB Washington State
2.044 — Atlanta Falcons — Drew Sanders, LB Arkansas
2.045 — Green Bay Packers — Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Edge Kansas State
2.046 — New England Patriots — Emmanuel Forbes, CB Mississippi State
2.047 — Chicago Bears — Dawand Jones, RT The Ohio State
2.048 — Detroit Lions —Isaiah Foskey, Edge Notre Dame
2.049 — Pittsburgh Steelers — Tuli Tipulotu, Edge USC
2.050 — San Francisco 49ers — Josh Downs, WR North Carolina
2.051 — Miami Dolphins — Matthew Bergeron, OT Syracuse
2.052 — Seattle Seahawks — Hendon Hooker, QB Tennessee
2.053 — Washington Commanders — Luke Musgrave, TE Oregon State
2.054 — Los Angeles Chargers — Jahmyr Gibbs, RB Alabama
2.055 — Detroit Lions — Sam LaPorta, TE Iowa
2.056 — Jacksonville Jaguars — Kelee Ringo, CB Georgia
2.057 — New York Giants — Jalin Hyatt, WR Tennessee
2.058 — Dallas Cowboys — Tyrique Stevenson, CB Miami
2.059 — Buffalo Bills — Luke Wypler, C The Ohio State
2.060 — Cincinnati Bengals — Clark Phillips III, CB Utah
2.061 — Chicago Bears — Zach Charbonnet, RB UCLA
2.062 — Philadelphia Eagles — Sydney Brown, S Illinois
2.063 — Kansas City Chiefs — Derick Hall, EDGE Auburn

3.064 — Chicago Bears — Tre'Vius Hodges-Tomlinson, CB TCU
3.065 — Houston Texans — B.J. Ojulari, EDGE LSU
3.066 — Arizona Cardinals — Jartavius Martin, DB Illinois
3.067 — Denver Broncos — Cam Smith, CB South Carolina
3.068 — Denver Broncos — Trenton Simpson, LB Clemson
3.069 — Los Angeles Rams — Darius Rush, CB South Carolina
3.070 — Las Vegas Raiders — D.J. Turner, CB Michigan
3.071 — New Orleans Saints — Devon Achane, RB Texas A&M
3.072 — Tennessee Titans — Moro Ojomo, DL Texas
3.073 — Houston Texans — Julius Brents, CB Kansas State
3.074 — Cleveland Brown — Nathaniel 'Tank' Brown, WR Houston
3.075 — Atlanta Falcons — Cedric Tillman, WR Tennessee
3.076 — New England Patriots — Nick Saldiveri, OT Old Dominion
3.077 — Los Angeles Rams — Kobie Turner, DL Wake Forest
3.078 — Green Bay Packers — Ji'Ayir Brown, S Penn State
3.079 — Indianapolis Colts — Antonio Johnson, DB Texas A&M
3.080 — Pittsburgh Steelers — Siaki Ika, NT Baylor
3.081 — Detroit Lions — Andrew Vorhees, OG USC
3.082 — Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Andre Carter II, EDGE Army
3.083 — Seattle Seahawks — Marvin Mims, WR Oklahoma
3.084 — Miami Dolphins — Tucker Craft, TE South Dakota State
3.085 — Los Angeles Chargers — Garrett Williams, CB Syracuse
3.086 — Baltimore Ravens — Cory Tice, CB Purdue
3.087 — Minnesota Vikings — Rashee Rice, WR SMu
3.088 — Jacksonville Jaguars — Zach Harrison, EDGE The Ohio State
3.089 — New York Giants — Mekhi Blackmon, CB USC
3.090 — Dallas Cowboys — A.T. Perry, WR Wake Forest
3.091 — Buffalo Bills — Eli Ricks, CB Alabama
3.092 — Cincinnati Bengals — Tyjae Spears, RB Tulane
3.093 — Carolina Panthers — Byron Young, Edge Tennessee
3.094 — Philadelphia Eagles — Zacch Pickens, DT South Carolina
3.095 — Minnesota Vikings — Tanner McKee, QB Stanford
3.096 — Arizona Cardinals — Olusegun Oluwatimi, C Michigan
3.097 — Washington Commanders — Isaiah McGuire, EDGE Missouri
3.098 — Cleveland Browns — Karl Brooks, DL Bowling Green
3.099 — San Francisco 49ers — Jaylon Jones, CB Texas A&M
3.100 — Las Vegas Raiders — Jordan Battle, S Alabama
3.101 — San Francisco 49ers — Wanya Morris, OT Oklahoma
3.102 — San Francisco 49ers — Zach Kuntz, TE Old Dominion

[Acgott]

Reaching for a center would be a bad decision for the Giants. They should go Deonte Banks there.

[MikeT14]

I need an explanation on the Commanders trade...

[THE DUKE]

I'm not big on Kincaid to the Bengals, but I at least get it.

I can't see them taking Phillips over Rush, Brents, or Smith, who all fit Lou Anurumo's defense more.

I like Spears, I think Abanikanda goes before him though.

[Trojan]

14 minutes ago, THE DUKE said:

I'm not big on Kincaid to the Bengals, but I at least get it.

I can't see them taking Phillips over Rush, Brents, or Smith, who all fit Lou Anurumo's defense more.

I like Spears, I think Abanikanda goes before him though.

  I have those CBs as close, but I remember Phillips interview at the combine really saying his fit specifically with the Bengals. He also talked about his versatility playing inside and out which he has over Brents who I view as a strictly boundary option. Rush I like most if you have to flip them and Cam Smith has some character flags apparently dropping him so a SB ready team I think would go with the prepared versatile corner excited to play for them who comes across exceptionally well and talent wise I have as similar enough grade. For Spears I liked his pass blocking ability and pass catching skills as a reason for going to Burrow's team.

33 minutes ago, Acgott said:

Reaching for a center would be a bad decision for the Giants. They should go Deonte Banks there.

I really like JMS for Giants and consider it a near lock at this point. First Gates left for WAS and Feliciano to SF, then there is JMS who is working with Jeremiah Sirles who played for Daboll in Buffalo with NYG OL coach Bobby Johnson. When Schmitz meet with the Giants he aced their protection questions as that is the scheme he has been prepping for months for.

“Bobby told me the next day, ‘I eventually had to throw tackle calls at him to try to get him to miss something,’” Sirles, an agent with One West Sports Group, told the Daily News on the phone Monday. “Bobby basically installed how they do all their protections, and its stuff that John Michael and I had been installing for two months.

“He threw a bunch at him where he couldn’t take notes because they were at a restaurant,” Sirles added. “So it was ‘Here are our installs, look at it, install it, let’s eat our dinner and chat, and then here’s your test.’ And he aced it besides one thing.”

Johnson admitted afterwards that the tackle call never would be Schmitz’s responsibility in a game but joked: “I just had to get him with something.”

 To me JMS is one of the safer prospects in the class and the mid-20s is where the blue chips are exhausted, so JMS' positional value issue is less of an issue. He fits a need, has a great understanding of scheme and is high character and high talent. It makes too much sense for me to pass for them, though I did have them "reach" in the third for an aggressive man coverage corner in Mekhi Blackmon who I like but is smaller as a result of passing on a guy like Banks so I do see what you are talking about as Banks making sense.

2 minutes ago, MikeT14 said:

I need an explanation on the Commanders trade...

I am probably wrong, but I felt like Chase Young is kinda an awkward player for the Commanders. Like clearly very high upside, also very disappointing injury wise and production. Then Chase has his 5th year option coming up like right after the draft, and the team is being sold. By trading him it puts that burden on the Bears who are a team with a ton of cap to just pick up the option and maybe extend and front load him and get guarantees out of the way. The second round swap part isn't too expensive and Witherspoon is a player I won't have at 16 (he'd go 11 to Lions after their trade down). Anthony Richardson could make sense too and just flip the Lions and Commanders selections, but I like Howell a lot and I feel like their defense would be good with Witherspoon. He visited the team as well so I think there is interest. I feel like if the interest the Commanders has shown to Banks, Forbes and Branch is real, and they are also looking at avoiding Chase Young money allotment questions the trade is a cheap way to get a higher graded blue chip version of what they are clearly interested in. I admit I'm almost certainly wrong on it and just piecing random stuff together in my head to make a mock that makes sense to me.

[THE DUKE]

4 minutes ago, Trojan said:

I have those CBs as close, but I remember Phillips interview at the combine really saying his fit specifically with the Bengals. He also talked about his versatility playing inside and out which he has over Brents who I view as a strictly boundary option. Rush I like most if you have to flip them and Cam Smith has some character flags apparently dropping him so a SB ready team I think would go with the prepared versatile corner excited to play for them who comes across exceptionally well and talent wise I have as similar enough grade. For Spears I liked his pass blocking ability and pass catching skills as a reason for going to Burrow's team.

What the Bengals need most is another boundary CB