Kiwibrown Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 On 12/5/2017 at 6:34 AM, Hunter2_1 said: Brady, then Taylor and Watt - for me. Wait, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 On 12/6/2017 at 12:48 PM, EliteTexan80 said: LT is such an interesting name in this, because he's the one name you can look at and legitimately wonder if he could have been better. His on field performance was legendary, but LT was widely known as a hard party guy, who would drink way too much (along with other substances) nights before games and still go our and dominate. I remember hearing one story - it was 45 minutes before kickoff and nobody on the Giants had seen or heard from Taylor all day. Coaches frantically send a few equipment managers to the hotel to find LT...and they find him in his hotel, passed out in a pile of his own vomit, with several tequila bottles and escorts all over the room. They throw him in a car and start to suit him up while they head back to the stadium, forcing coffee and Listerine down throat to wake him up. He gets to the field right before kickoff, still drunk and reeking of puke and coffee and...goes out and has a four sack day. I'd imagine this isn't the only LT story out there, but the guy was dominant while drunk. Imagine if he was sober. I played one of my best rugby games with a hang over. maybe he was well rested. Or the coke kicked back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikes635 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 On 12/3/2017 at 8:20 PM, bootsy said: Emmitt Smith, THE ALL TIME LEADING RUSHER. Unfortunately his name isn't listed and Barry Sanders for some reason is. Because we are all aware Emmitt has great numbers but would be lucky to be considered even a top five back of all time more less overall football player. I went with rice because there really is no argument he is the greatest at his position were you could argue all other slots with the exception of maybe Deon at corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bootsy Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 52 minutes ago, vikes635 said: Because we are all aware Emmitt has great numbers but would be lucky to be considered even a top five back of all time more less overall football player. LOL based off of what. So he just lucked up and stumbled into those numbers and has no ability at all, right?Another LOL. Emmitt's great numbers are due to his ability, his talent, his durability. So the fact that he is a top 5 back of all time and is a great overall football player based off of those attributes plus his numbers shoots down your bs claim that he's lucky to be considered a top 5 back of all time more less overall football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddyboy Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1920s, Red Grange plays for the Bears, briefly joins a startup league. His manager handles his $$, Grange and Babe Ruth both make $1M per year. Late 1930s, Sid Luckman and Sammy Baugh put fans in the stands dueling at QB. Within a decade, they have encouraged, Tittle, Layne, Graham, Unitas, Starr, Van Brocklin, Conerly, Waterfield, Wade, Blanda and Bratkowski. Jim Brown and Paul Hornung model a generation of running backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Buddyboy said: 1920s, Red Grange plays for the Bears, briefly joins a startup league. His manager handles his $$, Grange and Babe Ruth both make $1M per year. Late 1930s, Sid Luckman and Sammy Baugh put fans in the stands dueling at QB. Within a decade, they have encouraged, Tittle, Layne, Graham, Unitas, Starr, Van Brocklin, Conerly, Waterfield, Wade, Blanda and Bratkowski. Jim Brown and Paul Hornung model a generation of running backs. Hey Badger, how you been? I was wondering what happened to you. j/k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverine_Joe Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 the answer is the greatest QB = the greatest football player. would anybody here take jerry rice over top 7 QBs in the league to start a franchise? answer is absolutely no way no how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAF-N72EX Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 28 minutes ago, Wolverine_Joe said: the answer is the greatest QB = the greatest football player. would anybody here take jerry rice over top 7 QBs in the league to start a franchise? answer is absolutely no way no how. I mean, like, in madden, I had like no Qbs n i still won 8 superbowlz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game3525 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Ladainian Tomlinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malik Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 10 hours ago, Wolverine_Joe said: the answer is the greatest QB = the greatest football player. would anybody here take jerry rice over top 7 QBs in the league to start a franchise? answer is absolutely no way no how. Not really. people are interpreting it as "the best player they've seen play football" not "the most important player." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddyboy Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 340 QBs have started 10+ games since 1950, 100 are worth ranking. Take any of the top 100 QBs over any other position player. Frank Ryan had a PhD in math and led the Browns to four title games in the 1960s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancerman Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 10 hours ago, Malik said: Not really. people are interpreting it as "the best player they've seen play football" not "the most important player." If it's the best seen, then Moss is probably a better pound for pound WR. Rice beats Moss and TO off longevity and maybe playing with better QB's more consistently. If it's pure skill I'd say Lawrence Taylor. He wasn't dependent on anybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaserFocus Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 On 3/7/2018 at 8:17 PM, lancerman said: If it's the best seen, then Moss is probably a better pound for pound WR. Rice beats Moss and TO off longevity and maybe playing with better QB's more consistently. If it's pure skill I'd say Lawrence Taylor. He wasn't dependent on anybody Moss was faster, and a better leaper than Rice, but that's all. It wasn't longevity which made Rice great, but the level of play at an age when nearly any other receiver had retired. I don't understand the QB comment, since Daunte Culpepper and Randall Cunningham were excellent during the first half of his career, and then Moss played with Brady later on. When Jerry Rice wasn't excelling with Montana/Young, he still was outstanding for Rich Gannon. Rice also beats Moss in postseason play, and was just a physically and mentally stronger player. In the Niners SB win over San Diego, Rice played part of that game with one good shoulder, one of many cases of him overcoming intense pain on the field. And the idea of Rice quitting on a team is laughable. Rice loved to compete so much he kept playing until being waived by Denver. Moss also had the advantage of starting his career roughly a dozen years later, and that impacts how we view statistics. I'm not a Niners fan, but Jerry Rice is clearly the best WR ever, and in the discussion for GOAT player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefer Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 On 3/5/2018 at 2:40 PM, bootsy said: LOL based off of what. So he just lucked up and stumbled into those numbers and has no ability at all, right?Another LOL. Emmitt's great numbers are due to his ability, his talent, his durability. So the fact that he is a top 5 back of all time and is a great overall football player based off of those attributes plus his numbers shoots down your bs claim that he's lucky to be considered a top 5 back of all time more less overall football player. Also because Barry wasn't interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog2372 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 How is Peyton Manning not on this list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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