jimkelly02 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 On 9/12/2023 at 12:17 AM, MrOaktown_56 said: If that stopgap doesn't get playoffs and we don't get a franchise QB in this loaded draft I'm gonna be pissed. I think there’s a good chance we don’t draft a QB in round 1 next year if we miss the playoffs. Reason being JMD would be on a scorching hot seat in that scenario and 1) couldn’t afford to spend a high 1st rounder on a QB that won’t play 2) JMD wouldn’t draft a QB and play him in a “you HAVE to get to the playoffs or your fired season 3) it doesn’t make sense from the organization’s standpoint to draft a 1st round QB for a lame duck coach and potentially front office. Why draft the QB that fits the coach/system that won’t be here next year? Replacing a coach after the 1st round QB’s rookie season wastes an entire year of the 4+1 year advantage of a cheap rookie contract QB and even worse is likely to stagnate of retard their development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 12 hours ago, NYRaider said: I’d wager a good amount I’m more successful than 90% of you IRL This is short guy energy all the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 59 minutes ago, Jerry said: This is short guy energy all the way. I’m 6’6 IRL. Ask @Humble_Beast A Carr avatar in 2023 is little you know what energy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Jerry said: This is short guy energy all the way. 7 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I’m 6’6 IRL. Ask @Humble_Beast A Carr avatar in 2023 is little you know what energy Why don't you alpha males go compare sizes in PMs instead... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 47 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I’m 6’6 IRL. Ask @Humble_Beast A Carr avatar in 2023 is little you know what energy Lol. I don't care to change it. I like to discuss the Raiders on this forum with diehard fans, but updating my avatar isn't exactly on my list of important things to do with my life. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 4 hours ago, jimkelly02 said: I think there’s a good chance we don’t draft a QB in round 1 next year if we miss the playoffs. Reason being JMD would be on a scorching hot seat in that scenario and 1) couldn’t afford to spend a high 1st rounder on a QB that won’t play 2) JMD wouldn’t draft a QB and play him in a “you HAVE to get to the playoffs or your fired season 3) it doesn’t make sense from the organization’s standpoint to draft a 1st round QB for a lame duck coach and potentially front office. Why draft the QB that fits the coach/system that won’t be here next year? Replacing a coach after the 1st round QB’s rookie season wastes an entire year of the 4+1 year advantage of a cheap rookie contract QB and even worse is likely to stagnate of retard their development. If we pass on the best qb class in 5-10 years I will be in agony. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 This week is a good test for jimmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 14, 2023 Author Share Posted September 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Jerry said: Lol. I don't care to change it. I like to discuss the Raiders on this forum with diehard fans, but updating my avatar isn't exactly on my list of important things to do with my life. You're a Carr stan and it's pretty pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 6 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: If we pass on the best qb class in 5-10 years I will be in agony. As would I. But let’s face it McDaniels will do what’s in his best interests to retain his job (as would most people, but even moreso with McDaniels aka “Snake” around the league). I’d guess the ideal scenario is JMD shows enough to stay and the team does well enough but not too good where we can’t draft a QB without trading a king’s ransom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimkelly02 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 4 hours ago, NYRaider said: You're a Carr stan and it's pretty pathetic Geeze…. I think you officially have Carr Derangement Syndrome. 8 hours ago, Jerry said: Lol. I don't care to change it. I like to discuss the Raiders on this forum with diehard fans, but updating my avatar isn't exactly on my list of important things to do with my life. How dare you not change your logo immediately upon his release! Priorities, Dangit! In other news Carr did look pretty good last week. 5th most yard with 305. 2nd highest average at 9.2yds per attempt. 10th best QBR at 96. And he got the Win. Just to piss off CDS patients here I hope the guy has a good year and remaining career. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 Lol this thing is going off the rails quicker than Tyree Wilson gets off the snap, that's for sure. Anyways... 7 hours ago, MrOaktown_56 said: If we pass on the best qb class in 5-10 years I will be in agony. If we wind up with a top 10 pick, I say trade back. Be the team getting a little ransom. I just can't buy into Caleb Williams, and we're not gonna be in a spot to draft him without giving up a ton (and that's coming from me, the guy who thinks McDaniels sucks). Assuming most of the guys who are eligible for the draft declare and nobody takes a huge tumble a'la Levis or Willis, we could easily grab a QB + extra ammo. The class is just that insanely deep. I want the QBOTF, but I can say right now, despite my unabashed disdain for McZeigler, if they passed on QB initially in round 1 next year I would 100% defend the rationale until all the top guys were gone and we're sitting in late round 2/early round 3 taking another TE or something lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 The title of this thread is actually perfect though. If jimmy plays bad, there will be a different type of apology lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raidr4life Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 16 hours ago, jimkelly02 said: I think there’s a good chance we don’t draft a QB in round 1 next year if we miss the playoffs. Reason being JMD would be on a scorching hot seat in that scenario and 1) couldn’t afford to spend a high 1st rounder on a QB that won’t play 2) JMD wouldn’t draft a QB and play him in a “you HAVE to get to the playoffs or your fired season 3) it doesn’t make sense from the organization’s standpoint to draft a 1st round QB for a lame duck coach and potentially front office. Why draft the QB that fits the coach/system that won’t be here next year? Replacing a coach after the 1st round QB’s rookie season wastes an entire year of the 4+1 year advantage of a cheap rookie contract QB and even worse is likely to stagnate of retard their development. Yeah DT and CB would probably my top two targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 17 hours ago, jimkelly02 said: I think there’s a good chance we don’t draft a QB in round 1 next year if we miss the playoffs. Reason being JMD would be on a scorching hot seat in that scenario and 1) couldn’t afford to spend a high 1st rounder on a QB that won’t play 2) JMD wouldn’t draft a QB and play him in a “you HAVE to get to the playoffs or your fired season 3) it doesn’t make sense from the organization’s standpoint to draft a 1st round QB for a lame duck coach and potentially front office. Why draft the QB that fits the coach/system that won’t be here next year? Replacing a coach after the 1st round QB’s rookie season wastes an entire year of the 4+1 year advantage of a cheap rookie contract QB and even worse is likely to stagnate of retard their development. I don’t know, I see your logic of course, but teams have drafted a rookie then fired the coach the following season. Plus, if he kid is an elite prospect, one lost year is not ideal but he could still succeed like Hurts or Lawrence. I don’t think that necessarily ruins a prospect, maybe just delays development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbsk Posted September 15, 2023 Share Posted September 15, 2023 15 hours ago, NYRaider said: I’m 6’6 IRL. Ask @Humble_Beast A Carr avatar in 2023 is little you know what energy Dude, it’s the internet…….everyone here is 6’6” and hugely successful, we all run a 4.4 40 and are black belts in Jiu Jitsu 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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