Mox Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 minute ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Looks like virtually everybody doesn't watch football, then if you think Lamar isn't better than whoever you're putting above him besides Mahomes/Allen/Burrow. If this is your response, I can safely say you will rightfully sway no one. As a fellow fan of a team with a QB that our entire fanbase has buried their heads in the sand in over, I would suggest being open to the idea that you're highly biased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mox said: If this is your response, I can safely say you will rightfully sway no one. As a fellow fan of a team with a QB that our entire fanbase has buried their heads in the sand in over, I would suggest being open to the idea that you're highly biased. Shouldn't need to sway anyone that Lamar is a top 5 QB. His play speaks for itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Shouldn't need to sway anyone that Lamar is a top 5 QB. His play speaks for itself. The fact that it hasn't kind of proves my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnguy2015 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Lamar is #4 so far this season but he/Tua/Herbert/Hurts are interchangeable in the 4-7 slots in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 21 minutes ago, Mox said: The fact that it hasn't kind of proves my point. It has and you just haven't noticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
43M Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Mox said: The fact that it hasn't kind of proves my point. Lamar is a great regular season QB and has been really good this year. Definitely top 5. Maybe top 3. He should have had an elite day vs the Steelers. Instead his receivers were absolute garbage (as Ravens WRs tend to be) and absolutely let him down and were the main reason they lost that game....but people will still act like thats on Lamar. The problem is when the games really start to matter later in the season and into the playoffs. I have yet to see a pivotal game where Lamar dominates the way he does when there isnt much on the line. I can understand why youre not sold on him being top 5 OVERALL. But as far as his play so far this year, he is definitely up there. Edited November 1, 2023 by 43M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, 43M said: Lamar is a great regular season QB and has been really good this year. Definitely top 5. Maybe top 3. He should have had an elite day vs the Steelers. Instead his receivers were absolute garbage (as Ravens WRs tend to be) and absolutely let him down and were the main reason they lost that game....but people will still act like thats on Lamar. The problem is when the games really start to matter later in the season and into the playoffs. I have yet to see a pivotal game where Lamar dominates the way he does when there isnt much on the line. I can understand why youre not sold on him being top 5 OVERALL. But as far as his play so far this year, he is definitely up there. To me, there is a difference between having a top 5 season and being a top 5 QB. This thread, to my understanding is the latter. Yet I haven't even said my own opinion, I simply pointed out something pretty tame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 49 minutes ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: It has and you just haven't noticed. Where are you getting "I haven't noticed" from? I haven't even said my personal opinion. You made a broad statement that him not being top 5 was ridiculous. I responded with a broad statement that he's generally not considered top 5 to non-Ravens fans, which he isn't. For some reason, you can't handle that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Mox said: Where are you getting "I haven't noticed" from? I haven't even said my personal opinion. You made a broad statement that him not being top 5 was ridiculous. I responded with a broad statement that he's generally not considered top 5 to non-Ravens fans, which he isn't. For some reason, you can't handle that. Well yeah it's hard to disprove a negative. I was just responding to one person who had him outside of their top 10, which is preposterous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 minute ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: Well yeah it's hard to disprove a negative. I was just responding to one person who had him outside of their top 10, which is preposterous. Right, and had you not added the extra caveat, I would've agreed with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobellythrower Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, AFlaccoSeagulls said: then if you think Lamar isn't better than whoever Lamar has misleading stats, if you watch the game you see how good is he, so if they have him outside the top 5 that's fine even tho he' pff highest graded qb this szn so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Ray Reed said: Lamar Jackson is better than Brock Purdy, Kirk Cousins, Jared Goff, and Trevor Lawrence, man. Everybody's QB is better than the other guys QB. Jaren Hall is the best QB in the NFL, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusMcFife Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mox said: Virtually no one outside of Raven fans see Lamar as a top 5 QB. Based on casual observation of media that covers NFL (such as ESPN, Fox, etc.), most shows/analysts have been ranking Lamar in the top 5 Qbs as this season has progressed. The Ringer has him 3rd. https://nflrankings.theringer.com/qb-rankings Nick Wright had Lamar outside the top 10 to start the season but now has Lamar at 2/3. Edited November 1, 2023 by AngusMcFife Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Reed Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, SteelKing728 said: Everybody's QB is better than the other guys QB. Jaren Hall is the best QB in the NFL, obviously. Lmao yeah good comparison man, keep up the good work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BILLievers Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, AngusMcFife said: Based on casual observation of media that covers NFL (such as ESPN, Fox, etc.), most shows/analysts have been ranking Lamar in the top 5 Qbs as this season has progressed. The Ringer has him 3rd. https://nflrankings.theringer.com/qb-rankings Nick Wright had Lamar outside the top 10 to start the season but now has Lamar at 2/3. Please never have Nick Wrights opinion to mean anything lol he's a clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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