Rank the 32 Starters at QB

[Tugboat]

Mahomes Tier:
1. Patrick Mahomes.
2. Trevor Lawrence.

Elite:
3. Josh Allen.
4. Joe Burrow (when healthy).
5. Justin Herbert.

Top Tier:
6. Lamar Jackson.
7. Tua Tagovailoa.
8. Jalen Hurts.

Very Good:
9. Matthew Stafford.
10. Dak Prescott.
11. Kirk Cousins.
12. Jared Goff.

The Dalton Liners:
13. Russell Wilson.
14. Brock Purdy.
15. Mac Jones.
16. Jordan Love.
17. Derek Carr.

The Provisional Maybe??? Tier:
18. Anthony Richardson.
19. CJ Stroud.
20. Sam Howell.
21. Bryce Young.

----- The Dalton Line -----

 

The Stopgaps:
22. Ryan Tannehill (and fading quickly with age catching up).
23. Daniel Jones.
24. Baker Mayfield.
25. Jimmy Garoppolo.

Clinging to a Thread of Hope Tier:
26. Kenny Pickett.

Fillers:
*HM: Gardner Minshew.
27. Geno Smith.
28. Joshua Dobbs.

Terrible:
29. Zach Wilson.
30. Desmond Ridder.
31. Justin Fields.

Despicable:
32.DeShaun Watson.

[RandyMossIsBoss]

On 9/29/2023 at 11:21 PM, Tugboat said:

Mahomes Tier:
1. Patrick Mahomes.
2. Trevor Lawrence.

Elite:
3. Josh Allen.
4. Joe Burrow (when healthy).
5. Justin Herbert.

Top Tier:
6. Lamar Jackson.
7. Tua Tagovailoa.
8. Jalen Hurts.

Very Good:
9. Matthew Stafford.
10. Dak Prescott.
11. Kirk Cousins.
12. Jared Goff.

The Dalton Liners:
13. Russell Wilson.
14. Brock Purdy.
15. Mac Jones.
16. Jordan Love.
17. Derek Carr.

The Provisional Maybe??? Tier:
18. Anthony Richardson.
19. CJ Stroud.
20. Sam Howell.
21. Bryce Young.

----- The Dalton Line -----

 

The Stopgaps:
22. Ryan Tannehill (and fading quickly with age catching up).
23. Daniel Jones.
24. Baker Mayfield.
25. Jimmy Garoppolo.

Clinging to a Thread of Hope Tier:
26. Kenny Pickett.

Fillers:
*HM: Gardner Minshew.
27. Geno Smith.
28. Joshua Dobbs.

Terrible:
29. Zach Wilson.
30. Desmond Ridder.
31. Justin Fields.

Despicable:
32.DeShaun Watson.

Ok but seriously where would you actually rank Lawrence?

[mtmmike]

On 9/28/2023 at 1:38 PM, Tank4Drake said:

Always a controversial thread, but always a fun thread. 

The Clear Best:

1. Patrick Mahomes

The Elites:

2. Tua Tagovailoa

3. Joe Burrow

4. Josh Allen

5. Justin Herbert

The Really Good:

6. Jalen Hurts

7. Lamar Jackson

8. Trevor Lawrence

9. Kirk Cousins

Good QB's:

10. Brock Purdy

11. Deshaun Watson

12. Jared Goff

13. Dak Prescott

14. Matt Stafford

15. Geno Smith

16. Jordan Love

Average QB's: 

17. Derek Carr

18. CJ Stroud

19. Russell Wilson

20. Baker Mayfield

Below-Average QB's: 

21. Mac Jones

22. Anthony Richardson

23. Bryce Young

Bad QB's:

24. Daniel Jones

25. Jimmy Garoppolo

26. Kenny Pickett

27. Justin Fields

28. Sam Howell

29. Desmond Ridder

30. Ryan Tannehil

Terrible QB's:

31. Joshua Dobbs

32. Zach Wilson

Notes on Most Controversial Rankings:

- Tua at #2 might seem high but I'm not afraid to go against the grain. I've always had him and Burrow as generational talents and neck and neck with each other. I'm glad Tua finally has the talent and coaching to dominate the league. One of the smartest, most accurate, and best instincts in the league. He was my MVP pick before the season. 

- It's hard ranking first year starters like Love, Richardson, Young, Stroud, etc... so don't look too much into their rankings or over-think it. They should climb up a lot. The way Love and Stroud are playing, they could be Top 10 in no time. And Young and Richardson haven't looked terrible. 

- Tannehil at 30? Yeah. Sorry, he's washed. 

- 24 might seem low on Daniel Jones but I've never thought he's a good QB. Last year was Daboll's scheme making him look ok. Now teams have tape on Jones in that scheme. 

- 26 might seem low for Pickett, he could climb.

- 10 and 11 might seem high for Purdy and Watson, but Purdy has been balling every game. He's what, 11-0 in starts now that he has played start to finish with no injury? And looks great while playing. As for Deshaun, he hasn't looked that good, but I still think he's a better QB than Dak, Goff, Stafford... but if Watson doesn't start doing better, he can easily slide down this list. 

- Obviously this is not Power Rankings based off the season. Otherwise I'd have Love and Stroud Top 10 and Burrow Bottom 10. This is who I think are currently the best QB's in the NFL. 

Not sure what your trying to accomplish 

I doubt very seriously that anyone would pay for leshaun under any condition

He has fewer yards,td,lower qb rating

Then Mayfield and costs 52 million more

I doubt very seriously that green bay,

New York Jets and Giants

Plus the la Rams  trade there qb straight up for watson.

You better remake that list and watch some foWatson.

He is a below average qb that has won 1 playoff game in his career while with defenses that held the opposing teams to under 20 points. 

[Melbourne 9er]

On 9/30/2023 at 5:15 AM, stl4life07 said:

He is elite. The eye test. We are in awe how amazing Puka look. Kupp had his best season with Stafford. Megatron had his best season with Stafford. Stafford had people confused thinking Golladay was a very good receiver by the way he made him look. You don’t make receivers look that or have historical seasons if you aren’t elite caliber.

And yes every QB has their flaws. Stafford is a gunslinger. The Rams literally wouldn’t have won the Superbowl if Stafford wasn’t. Led the NFL in ints but had the greatest 4th quarter season in I think NFL history and had three 4th quarter comebacks in the playoffs to win the Superbowl in his very first season with the Rams with all the pressure in the world bc the spotlight was on him. So yes again he is elite.

And the Rams may not have won a Superbowl if Tartt caught a ball from Stafford that hit him between the numbers with no Ram around.

[stl4life07]

3 hours ago, Melbourne 9er said:

And the Rams may not have won a Superbowl if Tartt caught a ball from Stafford that hit him between the numbers with no Ram around.

The Rams would’ve still won. That lost was more on Kyle bc they didn’t gain a positive yard on offense for the last 10 minutes of the game. Plus if you bring up the Tartt drop please bring up the Ramsey pick 6 drop that came after the Tartt drop. Which nobody brings up makes me think either nobody cares about the Ramsey drop or people don’t remember he dropped a pick 6 late in the 4th quarter.

But yeah every QB throws int or near int or near fumbles or even fumbles. It’s just QBs like Stafford people run to mention his turnovers or almost turnovers. Nobody talks about the almost turnovers Brady made or Mahomes made in the playoffs. It happens. 

Edited October 2, 2023 by stl4life07

[Blackstar12]

All I gotta say is move CJ and AR up they look good.

[Soko]

Is this comparisons or a self help thread

[Flounch]

Lamar Jackson, top tier ? he's still don't know how to throw at his WR....

[LuckyNumber11]

*whispers*

Just saying but Josh Dobbs has the #9 QBR and has not thrown an interception through 4 weeks, and is #7 in completion percentage. Do with this information whatever you want. 

[bigbadbuff]

Imagine putting one read tua over Josh Allen lmfao.

 

[AngusMcFife]

1 hour ago, Flounch said:

Lamar Jackson, top tier ? he's still don't know how to throw at his WR....

Thus far this year Lamar has completed 48 passes to WRs and 17 to TEs. 

[jonnguy2015]

On 9/28/2023 at 1:18 PM, jonnguy2015 said:

Previous rankings

After Week 4:
 

Mahomes Tier:
1. Patrick Mahomes

Elite:
2. Josh Allen(+1)
3. Justin Herbert(+1)
4. Tua Tagovailoa(-2)
5. Jalen Hurts
6. Lamar Jackson
7. Joe Burrow(I fully expect him to rise back up once he's healthy, but hard to rank him any higher right now when he's playing like one of the worst QBs in the league)

Good:
8. Kirk Cousins
9. Trevor Lawrence
10. Jared Goff
11. Dak Prescott
12. CJ Stroud(+3)
13. Geno Smith(-1)
14. Matthew Stafford(-1)
15. Brock Purdy(-1)

Mediocre:
16. Russell Wilson(+5)
17. Baker Mayfield(+3)
18. Jordan Love(-2)
19. Derek Carr(-2)
20. Joshua Dobbs(+2)
21. Jimmy Garoppolo(-3)
22. Mac Jones(-3)
23. Sam Howell(+4)
24. Anthony Richardson(+1)

Bad:
25. Deshaun Watson(+4)
26. Bryce Young(+3)
27. Ryan Tannehill(+3)
28. Daniel Jones(-5)
29. Kenny Pickett(-5)
30. Desmond Ridder(-4)

Terrible:
31. Justin Fields
32. Zach Wilson

[Danger]

1. Mahomes
Patrick Mahomes

2. Elite
Josh Allen
Joe Burrow (Healthy)

3. Rock Solid Franchise QB
Justin Herbert
LaMar Jackson
Jalen Hurts
Trevor Lawrence (on the rise)
Tua Tagovailoa (Healthy)

4. Good Starting QB
Kirk Cousins
Dak Prescott
Russell Wilson
Jared Goff
Brock Purdy (on the rise)
CJ Stroud (on the rise)
Geno Smith

5. Journeyman/Serviceable 
Baker Mayfield
Mac Jones
Ryan Tannehill
Derek Carr
Jimmy Garroppolo
DeShaun Watson
Kyler Murray

6. Flat out not good
Matthew Stafford* (washed)
Zach Wilson
Justin Fields
Kenny Pickett
Desmond Ridder


X. Too Soon
Sam Howell
Anthony Richardson
Bryce Young
Jordan Love

[Kmart128]

Why is everyone using Burrow's ankle injury as an excuse this year... no body used Allen's elbow injury as an excuse for him last year.

[cp0k2]

On 9/29/2023 at 3:15 PM, stl4life07 said:

He is elite. The eye test. We are in awe how amazing Puka look. Kupp had his best season with Stafford. Megatron had his best season with Stafford. Stafford had people confused thinking Golladay was a very good receiver by the way he made him look. You don’t make receivers look that or have historical seasons if you aren’t elite caliber.

And yes every QB has their flaws. Stafford is a gunslinger. The Rams literally wouldn’t have won the Superbowl if Stafford wasn’t. Led the NFL in ints but had the greatest 4th quarter season in I think NFL history and had three 4th quarter comebacks in the playoffs to win the Superbowl in his very first season with the Rams with all the pressure in the world bc the spotlight was on him. So yes again he is elite.

Including this in an argument literally made me laugh out loud.

Jon Kitna, J.T. O'Sullivan, Dan Orlovsky, the corpse of Daunte Culpepper, Drew Stanton, Drew Henson, and Shaun Hill are the other QBs Calvin played with.