LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 7 minutes ago, bruceb said: Sorry, thought we were talking about JAX We were, and other teams who’ve used a dominant front/pass rush to win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: We were, and other teams who’ve used a dominant front/pass rush to win games. I am all for a dominant front/pass rush, but I do not think that burning #4 on Chubb gets us that or the best value for the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, H2ThaIzzo said: They also have LB'ers that can play in coverage and one of the best secondaries in the NFL. Campbell was a Free Agent signing. Jackson was a Free Agent signing. Darieus was picked up after the Bills released him. No, they’re a great defense front to back, no doubt, but I still think their success is primarily due to their ability to destroy offenses at the LOS. I’m not advocating Chubb at 4 per se, I’d rather move down, but I think he fits better than Minkah and I don’t think he’s a “luxury” or “rotational guy” if we take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, bruceb said: I am all for a dominant front/pass rush, but I do not think that burning #4 on Chubb gets us that or the best value for the pick. I don’t disagree, we both want to move back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 57 minutes ago, bruceb said: True. But apparently not a way to advance all the way in the playoffs. When you have a franchise QB and a dominating pass rush of course it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 There are going to plenty of these average to good QB's availalbe this yea, minny isn't keeping there lot. maybe cousins,. We can trade for McCarron. We can get a QB in the 1st round. Joe Thomas got Drew Bress number to give him a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 48 minutes ago, bruceb said: Didn't know that. If so, all the more reason to forget about Chubb and trade down from #4. And to go on Rashan Gary Raekwon Davis Austin Bryant guy from Miami all will end up being graded right at Chubbs level it not higher 2019 will be ridiculous on the D line I’m cool with trading down to a QB needy team pick up a first round pick. In 2019 you’ll be able to get a player on Chubbs level after pick 15 it’ll be so deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheeRealDeal Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 An extremely underrated method of building a championship caliber team is trading mid round and late round picks for proven quality players. We have 6 picks in rounds 4-7 and I would gladly part with potential for proven even if the player is only rotational or role playing good. The percentage of player who even turn into quality role players or depth players in th 4th-7th rounds is ridiculously low. The chances of finding the next Tom Brady, Antonio Brown or Zach Thomas are even lower. Take the sure thing and trade for vets. New England has done it for years. Oakland built a very good team in the early 2000s doing it. Baltimore has done it. Jacksonville made a great play for Dareus this year that helped them big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 5 minutes ago, TheeRealDeal said: An extremely underrated method of building a championship caliber team is trading mid round and late round picks for proven quality players. We have 6 picks in rounds 4-7 and I would gladly part with potential for proven even if the player is only rotational or role playing good. The percentage of player who even turn into quality role players or depth players in th 4th-7th rounds is ridiculously low. The chances of finding the next Tom Brady, Antonio Brown or Zach Thomas are even lower. Take the sure thing and trade for vets. New England has done it for years. Oakland built a very good team in the early 2000s doing it. Baltimore has done it. Jacksonville made a great play for Dareus this year that helped them big. I am all for this. We do not need to keep adding double-digit first year players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheeRealDeal Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, bruceb said: I am all for this. We do not need to keep adding double-digit first year players. Obviously it is a complete guess as to who would be available on the trade market as these types of trades are usually out of left field. If I have time in the next few weeks I might compile a list of possible veterans that could be had on the trade market. Two off the top of my head would be Jordy Nelson at 33 and Green Bay giving out big money to Adams, and Tyrann Mathieu who hasn't been quite the same play maker since his injury. We obviously have the cap space to absorb some of these types of contracts and because of the contracts teams typically sell extremely low. In Nelson's case it would be a 7th rounder or they may even release him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 9 hours ago, freakygeniuskid said: Some really interesting stuff on QBs here from Matt Waldman. https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2017/12/30/rsp-film-room-no-119-qbs-lamar-jackson-and-josh-allen-in-the-pocket/ Waldman's the GOAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, Mind Character said: Waldman's the GOAT Was he talking about Hueball: we recall instances where ineffective leaders with sub-par hard skills but decent interpersonal skills avoided being found out while wreaking havoc in the workplace. However, there are lots of ineffectual leaders who earned positions based on the appeal of hard skills — practical experience — who can’t get the job done because they don’t know how to make consistent decisions that set up their teammates for lasting success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mind Character Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 41 minutes ago, bruceb said: ............................. .....Hueball: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceb Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Mind Character said: It really doesn't matter how well we do in FA or in the draft so long as we are saddled with Hueball and maybe our DC's scheme to let's play our DB far enough off the line almost to guarantee the other team to pick up whatever yardage they need or get completely confused so as to allow wide open TD passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Mind Character said: Waldman's the GOAT Yeah I watch a pretty decent amount of that really showed Allen's issues again Senior Bowl will be big for him can he process information quick enough really made me like Lamar hes a player who I always thought was going to see his stock rise during the offseason Great character, production, heisman winner, hell of an arm, and 4.3 speed if it wasnt for RG3 Lamar Jackson is probably the number 1 pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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