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Should Saints rebuild or are they close to being a NFC contender again?


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General consensus seems to be that they're unable to rebuild due to terrible cap management. They're overpaying a bunch of over the hill or just straight up bad players. With all the restructuring they've done over the years they're locked into guaranteed contracts and can't alleviate the cap in any way except to continue restructuring and extending the guys they've got.

So basically... neither. They can't rebuild for a few years and their roster isn't particularly good.

The good news is that the NFC south is a very weak division and they can probably win it. They're not going anywhere in the playoffs if they do, however.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-orleans-saints

Red means negative.

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They don’t have an option. If they try to cut bait with players, they’ll lose even more cap space. Their only option is pushing more of it into the following year (where they’ll be over again), and then maybe in 2026, we can have this debate.

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They should blow it up but they mostly can't and almost certainly won't. So they will continue to win 7 to 10 games as long as the division is bad, while being generally irrelevant overall.

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They're certainly not a contender to win the conference. They might contend for the division title, depending on what Tampa and Atlanta do at QB.

They definitely should try to clear up their cap situation but it will take several years to work it off. At least 2, maybe 3. 

They should have just taken the pain the year after Brees retired but the division was weak so they didn't reset the roster. 

 

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40 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said:

Blow it up. Trade Kamara, trade Jordan and eat alot of dead cap to start over

They could trade Kamara, but trading Jordan would carry a $35M cap hit, $21M higher than what he costs to keep, so I'm not sure they could afford doing that either.

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Without a franchise QB, without ever picking top 5 and with their mess of a cap situation the Saints are low-key one of the worst situation/team of all football at the moment. There's no hope for them in the next few years (winning a SB), they're just stuck in their bad situation for the foreseeable future. Hopefully they can shed all their bad contracts by 2026 and hit a hard reset. 
Maybe stopping to trade up in the 1st round to get some marginal prospects (Davenport, Olave, Penning) would help too!

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30 minutes ago, MagicMT said:

Without a franchise QB, without ever picking top 5 and with their mess of a cap situation the Saints are low-key one of the worst situation/team of all football at the moment. There's no hope for them in the next few years (winning a SB), they're just stuck in their bad situation for the foreseeable future. Hopefully they can shed all their bad contracts by 2026 and hit a hard reset. 
Maybe stopping to trade up in the 1st round to get some marginal prospects (Davenport, Olave, Penning) would help too!

How is Olave a marginal prospect?  Davenport was a head-scratcher, Penning the logic was there it just hasn't panned out.

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1 hour ago, Raves said:

How is Olave a marginal prospect?  Davenport was a head-scratcher, Penning the logic was there it just hasn't panned out.

Well maybe marginal isn't the right word for Olave, he was a good prospect and is a good young player. 
It's more the Saints strategy/process that I'm questioning here. It seems like they are always trading up in the draft (24 times in the last 16 years as of after the 22' draft - most in the NFL) but at some point keeping your draft picks helps you out for the long-term health of the team. 
I don't like the logic of giving up a FRP in the next draft for the OT4 (Penning) in the current one, seems short-sighed to me, especially since you just traded up for Olave (who himself wasn't the top WR prospect) like 10 picks ago... 
It's not like the Saints are a true contender in the last few years, what are they trying to keep together? A team that plays for .500? 

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