goldfishwars Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) Use this thread to discuss next year's QB class. Carson Beck - Georgia Prototypical Size Sneaky mobility Pre-snap Diagnosis Accurate Good arm strength Lacks creativity as a thrower Panics when pressured Shedeur Sanders - Colorado Beautiful deep-ball passer Can drive throws Good athlete, can be a plus as a runner Lacks creativity as a thrower High pressure to sack % Off-field headache, entitled personality Quinn Ewers - Texas Live arm - can throw with velocity Can generate big plays out of structure Flashes mobility above what he shows on a regular basis Poor decision-maker Accuracy below average Jalen Milroe - Alabama Serious gas as a runner Elite arm talent to throw off platform and variety of arm angles Tough and competitive Poor lower mechanics Varying, inconsistent release Misses layup throws Cam Ward - Miami Good arm talent Can improvise, a creative thrower Gunslinger mentality, willing to make plays Weird and inconsistent footwork Will make ill-advised throws Older prospect at 24 when declares Jaxson Dart - Ole Miss Accurate thrower, always in rhythm Will hang in the pocket to make throws Ball placement close to elite Very good arm A tick under ideal size, probably shorter than his listed 6'2 Throws better on the move Riley Leonard - Notre Dame Prototypical size at 6'4 Big producer at Duke, 282 avg YPG and 33TDs High-level ball placement Surprises as a runner, good flat speed Can create with arm and legs High variance in accuracy Doesn't appear to read full field Poor mechanics under center History of ankle and foot injuries - recovering from second surgery could slow transition to ND Others to dig into: Graham Mertz - Florida Conner Weigman - Texas A & M Cade Klubnik - Clemson Jalon Daniels - Kansas Noah Fifita - Arizona DJ Uiagalelei - Florida State Edited May 18 by goldfishwars 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 32 minutes ago, goldfishwars said: Jaxson Dart - Missouri Wrong school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 I was impressed how accurate Sanders was on the move. That was one more plus not listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 43 minutes ago, goldfishwars said: Use this thread to discuss next year's QB class. Carson Beck - Georgia Prototypical Size Sneaky mobility Pre-snap Diagnosis Accurate Good arm strength Lacks creativity as a thrower Panics when pressured Shedeur Sanders - Colorado Beautiful deep-ball passer Can drive throws Good athlete, can be a plus as a runner Lacks creativity as a thrower High pressure to sack % Off-field headache, entitled personality Quinn Ewers - Texas Live arm - can throw with velocity Can generate big plays out of structure Flashes mobility above what he shows on a regular basis Poor decision-maker Accuracy below average Jalen Milroe - Alabama Serious gas as a runner Elite arm talent to throw off platform and variety of arm angles Tough and competitive Poor lower mechanics Varying, inconsistent release Misses layup throws Cam Ward - Miami Good arm talent Can improvise, a creative thrower Gunslinger mentality, willing to make plays Weird and inconsistent footwork Will make ill-advised throws Older prospect at 24 when declares Jaxson Dart - Missouri Accurate thrower, always in rhythm Will hang in the pocket to make throws Ball placement close to elite Very good arm A tick under ideal size, probably shorter than his listed 6'2 Throws better on the move Riley Leonard - Notre Dame Prototypical size at 6'4 Big producer at Duke, 282 avg YPG and 33TDs High-level ball placement Surprises as a runner, good flat speed Can create with arm and legs High variance in accuracy Doesn't appear to read full field Poor mechanics under center History of ankle and foot injuries - recovering from second surgery could slow transition to ND Others to dig into: Graham Mertz - Florida Conner Weigman - Texas A & M Cade Klubnik - Clemson Jalon Daniels - Kansas Noah Fifita - Arizona DJ Uiagalelei - Florida State How are these guys not others to look into? As for Jaxson Dart, honestly to me he has to show way more than he has to be even draftable. Currently I am not super high on that guy and in that offense he has struggled despite a lot of talent around him, and he is very dependent on running the scrambling around, tough sure but needs to show he can be a much better passer. Will be interesting how he does this year with a much improved defense and added WRs plus a very experienced returning OL. Kaidon Salter Liberty RS JR Cameron Rising Utah RS KJ Jefferson UCF RS Brady Cook Missouri RS Dillon Gabriel Oregon RS Grayson McCall NC State RS Will Howard Ohio State RS Hudson Card Purdue RS TJ Finley Western Kentucky RS Tyler Van Dyke Wisconsin RS Donovan Smith Houston RS Will Rogers Washington RS Tyler Shough Louisville RS Max Johnson UNC RS Kyle McCord Syracuse Hank Bachmeier Wake Forest RS Seth Henigan Memphis Gerry Bohanon BYU RS If one wants big time upside and size at the position Donovan Smith and TJ Finley are two who are promising, and Shough as well if he can finally stay healthy which I doubt. Will Howard will be interesting in that new offense at Ohio State but he is still a very run first QB but has great size for the spot and should be amazing with all of those weapons around him. These guys I do not see declared unless they are wildly improved from last year. Drew Allar Penn State JR Cade Klubnik Clemson JR Garrett Nussmeier LSU RS JR Not sure it would be wise for either of these guys to declare but with big years who knows. Murphy could do well at Duke and is such a impressive athlete for his size, Fifita has the talent but still could use some work. Noah Fifita Arizona RS SOPH Maalik Murphy Duke RS SOPH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humble_Beast Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 excited to see he puts it together this fall. Raiders probably will target a QB in 2025 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texansfan713 Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 I've seen a mock (CBS) that had Donovan Smith going first round. If Fritz can turn Smith into a first rounder after 1 year then he is the GOAT! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armbar Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 On 5/18/2024 at 9:06 AM, goldfishwars said: Others to dig into: Will Rogers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted May 19 Share Posted May 19 Sanders, Beck, and Milroe would be my bets to be the top QBs when all is said and done. Ewers will be up there because he has his fans for some reason. Klubnik is my sleeper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 (edited) I think Grayson McCall should be on the list but he will end up as a 3rd rounder due to LOC. He has the arm the size and the accuracy. I watched him 2 years ago. Coastal Carolina's offense was mostly short passes so his comp% is amazingly high but he would still though some( not many) deep balls and crossers with accuracy and zip. He will be in the ACC this season so i have high hopes that he will shine. Edited May 20 by jebrick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 1 hour ago, jebrick said: I think Grayson McCall should be on the list but he will end up as a 3rd rounder due to LOC. He has the arm the size and the accuracy. I watched him 2 years ago. Coastal Carolina's offense was mostly short passes so his comp% is amazingly high but he would still though some( not many) deep balls and crossers with accuracy and zip. He will be in the ACC this season so i have high hopes that he will shine. I was a big fan of McCall in 2022. 2023 McCall made me think he just doesn't have the tools to be an NFL passer, but it's not gonna take much to get me back on his hype train. I didn't know he transferred to NC State until I saw this post. That's great news for evaluating him. I gotta watch his left tackle anyway. Belton was one of my favorite sleepers in the tackle class last year, and I think he's going to take a big step forward this next season. NC State has a great strength and conditioning program, so if he can clean up his footwork a little bit, I think he can be a legit right tackle. I still like Klubnik though. He wasn't great last year, but if you watch him in 22, he made big strides last year, and made some more during the season with Clemson imo. I expect he's gonna come out a much better QB than he was last year, and Clemson always has a lot of talent, so he'll be able to show off whatever assets he does have. I think he's a safer bet to have taken the next step in his development than someone like Milroe, even if Milroe definitely has more raw athletic upside. Former 5 star, physically gifted, all the right measurements, should be a high pick if he comes out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 On 5/19/2024 at 11:51 AM, Daniel said: Sanders, Beck, and Milroe would be my bets to be the top QBs when all is said and done. Ewers will be up there because he has his fans for some reason. Klubnik is my sleeper. I think Ewers needs to take a step forward this year. He definitely took a step forward last year, but I want to see that elite tape break out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebrick Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 7 hours ago, Daniel said: I was a big fan of McCall in 2022. 2023 McCall made me think he just doesn't have the tools to be an NFL passer, but it's not gonna take much to get me back on his hype train. I didn't know he transferred to NC State until I saw this post. That's great news for evaluating him. He had the shoulder injury that he tried to play through. I think he can do well although I do not know how NC St is for talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrOaktown_56 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 I think Beck Sanders Ewers and ultimately even Millroe will go in the 1st round. If Millroe can take a step forward as a passer this will be a lot less controversial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 On 5/18/2024 at 9:57 AM, Ozzy said: Will Howard will be interesting in that new offense at Ohio State but he is still a very run first QB but has great size for the spot and should be amazing with all of those weapons around him. Breakout candidate of the year right here. Howard has definitely been run-first, which seems to be a theme at KSU going back a ways. That said, I don't see Ohio St bringing in QBs they're not convinced can throw. Mix in the improved weapons and Chip Kelly at OC and you've got a guy who is going to be put in arguably one of the best positions to succeed- if he can indeed be a good passer. No offense to KSU, but Howard used the portal to upgrade everything about his surroundings and his own platform for recognition. If he works out at all for Ohio St, his name is going to start generating some buzz fairly quickly. I think he's going to be a super intriguing prospect. We use the term "boom or bust" a lot, but it fits here so well. If he booms, it'll probably be atomic. If he busts, it'll be very obvious that he just doesn't have "it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mox Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 As others have said, I like and believe in Klubnik. Unlike others, I think Ewers is going to cement himself as a top 5 lock this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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