Leader Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 Aaron Wilson - Patrick O'Connell (Packers) two years, $4M, $1.6M gtd, $950K signing bonus, salaries $1.12M, $1.2M; $650K roster bonus 3rd day of 2023 league year roster bonus. /// Can you spell inexpensive? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximusGluteus Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 The only issue with Araiza is that he almost always out-kicks his coverage and punts it into the end zone quite often. If he can learn to convert some of that distance into hang time and work on his accuracy he'll be amazing. I don't doubt that a good ST coach like Bisaccia would be able to help him get there quickly. I imagine Araiza is going to go relatively early in the draft just based on his sheer talent. Jordan Stout from Penn State is also really good. He has a higher net avg than Araiza with a lot fewer touchbacks and return yards and a much higher fair catch %. He also had 18 punts land inside the 10 and another 6 land inside the 5. Both guys can easily boot it out of the end zone on kickoffs so that's a plus for them as well. Some stats for comparison: Araiza punts: 79 long: 86 avg: 51.19 net avg: 43.23 traveled at least 50 yards: 39 touchbacks: 15 downed inside the 20: 36 opp return yards: 251 fair catches: 17 (21.5%) Stout punts: 67 long: 76 avg: 46.01 net avg: 44.54 traveled at least 50 yards: 25 touchbacks: 3 downed inside the 20: 35 opp return yards: 39 fair catches: 30 (44.8%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 23 minutes ago, {Family Ghost} said: Anybody can hold better than Bojorquez. O'Donnell also can kickoff as well, so that's an added bonus. Crosby can't boot them out of the endzone with regularity these days. O'Donnell had 37 touchbacks with Chicago. Guys, come on. Crosby can kick a ball out of the endzone anytime he wants to. Anybody who can make a 54 yard field goal, can EASILY kick a ball 70 yards off a tee. Think about it, the goal posts are 10 feet up in the air. Assuming a 45 degree descent at the goal post, that means a 54 yard kickoff, hits the ground at 64 yards. That is the goal line when kicking off from the 35. Kickers easily can add on 5-10 yards with an elongated run up, not having to launch over a rush, and not having to pay attention to the snap/hold. Crosby has a touchback% of 45.7% last year. That's because he's being told to aim for the goal line. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Leader said: Aaron Wilson - Patrick O'Connell (Packers) two years, $4M, $1.6M gtd, $950K signing bonus, salaries $1.12M, $1.2M; $650K roster bonus 3rd day of 2023 league year roster bonus. /// Can you spell inexpensive? Am I wrong for thinking this is like twice as much as I expected? Lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chili Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Leader said: Aaron Wilson - Patrick O'Connell (Packers) two years, $4M, $1.6M gtd, $950K signing bonus, salaries $1.12M, $1.2M; $650K roster bonus 3rd day of 2023 league year roster bonus. /// Can you spell inexpensive? That's the 12th biggest guaranteed money for a punter in the NFL at the moment. That's actually quite a lot which means he's 100% our new punter for next season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Just now, AlexGreen#20 said: Crosby has a touchback% of 45.7% last year. That's because he's being told to aim for the goal line. We had a big discussion about this last year. If this is true, given the state of our ST coverage unit, whoever told Crosby not to kick a TB every single time around should not only be fired, but probably shot as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
{Family Ghost} Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Am I wrong for thinking this is like twice as much as I expected? Lol. They just didn't like Bojo very much and view this guy as an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Don't really care about his PFF score, can he punt in the cold? Cause the Bojo bombs left town the moment it was less than 40. When we needed one late in the 4th to flip the field vs SF I recall him giving us a dud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 dammit he's really our punter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 8 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Guys, come on. Crosby can kick a ball out of the endzone anytime he wants to. Anybody who can make a 54 yard field goal, can EASILY kick a ball 70 yards off a tee. Think about it, the goal posts are 10 feet up in the air. Assuming a 45 degree descent at the goal post, that means a 54 yard kickoff, hits the ground at 64 yards. That is the goal line when kicking off from the 35. Kickers easily can add on 5-10 yards with an elongated run up, not having to launch over a rush, and not having to pay attention to the snap/hold. Crosby has a touchback% of 45.7% last year. That's because he's being told to aim for the goal line. they brought it past the 25 like legitimately 90% of the time. i assumed crosby's leg was just dead not that we were that dumb but i mean i guess it was the worst unit of all time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubz41 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 JK Scott would've been cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 The Packers can sign Campbell officially now, along with O'Donnell and still be about 2m under. Really the only moves left are Tae and Jaire. Maybe Lowry. We could get to probably 20m to play with in FA if we actually got those two done in the next few days. I doubt it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrILL! Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 58 minutes ago, AlexGreen#20 said: Guys, come on. Crosby can kick a ball out of the endzone anytime he wants to. Anybody who can make a 54 yard field goal, can EASILY kick a ball 70 yards off a tee. Think about it, the goal posts are 10 feet up in the air. Assuming a 45 degree descent at the goal post, that means a 54 yard kickoff, hits the ground at 64 yards. That is the goal line when kicking off from the 35. Kickers easily can add on 5-10 yards with an elongated run up, not having to launch over a rush, and not having to pay attention to the snap/hold. Crosby has a touchback% of 45.7% last year. That's because he's being told to aim for the goal line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGreen#20 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, FinneasGage said: they brought it past the 25 like legitimately 90% of the time. i assumed crosby's leg was just dead not that we were that dumb but i mean i guess it was the worst unit of all time @packfanfb Crosby 49 non touchback, non squib kickoffs. 20 of them ended up past the 25 yard line. This equated to 223 yards. 24 of them ended up before the 25 yard line. This equated to 152 yards. 5 of them ended up on the 25 yard line. 20/49 = 41% of Crosby's non touchback kickoffs ended up past the 25 yard line. 158 - 223 = 65 yards 65 yards/17 games = 3.8 yards per game. + @ NO 1 KO: Touchback + Vs. Detroit 6 KO: Touchback Touchback Not Touchback (41 yard line) Touchback Touchback Not Touchback (23 yard line) + @ 49ers 6 KO: Touchback Touchback Not Touchback (68 yard line) Not Touchback (17 yard line) Not Touchback (19 yard line) Touchback + vs Steelers 6 KO: Touchback Touchback Touchback Not Touchback (35 yard line) SQUIB Not Touchback (8 yard line) Not Touchback (36 yard line) + @ Bengals 7 KO: Touchback Not Touchback (40 yard line) Touchback Not Touchback (23 yard line) Touchback Not Touchback (25 yard line) Not Touchback (25 yard line) + vs. Bears 5 KO: Not Touchback (29 yard line) Not Touchback (32 yard line) Not Touchback (28 yard line) Touchback Not Touchback (42 yard line) + vs. Washington 5 KO: Not Touchback (17 yard line) Touchback Not Touchback (23 yard line) Not Touchback (23 yard line) Not Touchback (23 yard line) + vs. Cardinals 5 KO: Touchback Not Touchback (15 yard line) Not Touchback (15 yard line) Not Touchback (19 yard line) Touchback + @ Chiefs 2 KO: Touchback Not Touchback (20 yard line) + vs. Seattle 4 KO: Not Touchback (26 yard line) Touchback Not Touchback (32 yard line) Not Touchback (24 yard line) + vs. Vikings 6 KO: Touchback Touchback Touchback Touchback Not Touchback (21 yard line) Touchback + vs. Rams 7 KO: Not Touchback (26 yard line) Not Touchback (20 yard line) Not Touchback (19 yard line) Not Touchback (33 yard line) Touchback Touchback Not Touchback (20 yard line) + vs. Bears 8 KO Touchback Not Touchback (41 yard line) Not Touchback (40 yard line) Not Touchback (42 yard line) Touchback Not Touchback (8 yard line) Not Touchback (13 yard line) Not Touchback (21 yard line) + vs. Ravens 6 KO Not Touchback (23 yard line) Not Touchback (27 yard line) Not Touchback (37 yard line) Touchback Not Touchback (25 yard line) Touchback + Vs. Browns 5 KOs: Not touchback (25 yard line) Touchback Not Touchback (30 yard line) Not Touchback (29 yard line) SQUIB Not Touchback (15 yard line) + Vs. Vikings 8 KOs: Not Touchback (34 yard line) Touchback Touchback Touchback Touchback Touchback Not Touchback (37 yard line) Not Touchback (19 yard line) + Vs. Lions 6 KOs: Touchback Touchback Touchback Touchback Not Touchback (25 yards) Touchback Edited March 17, 2022 by AlexGreen#20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 30 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: The Packers can sign Campbell officially now, along with O'Donnell and still be about 2m under. Really the only moves left are Tae and Jaire. Maybe Lowry. We could get to probably 20m to play with in FA if we actually got those two done in the next few days. I doubt it though. Lowry should be close to enough to get Rasul in the fold, but yea, we need Adams extended asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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