packfanfb Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, craig said: Thanks, fanfb. Some Packer-related media doc claimed the team can convert base-to-bonus unilaterally. An accounting practice, with zero impact on the player payments or timing thereof; so that the team doesn't need the player to sign off on that. This seems perhaps inconsistent with that claim? Either the claim is wrong, and the Packers could NOT convert base-to-bonus without Rodgers approval. Or else, I suppose, perhaps the claim is true and the Packers could have done so, but chose not to for relationship reasons? Didn't want to do so without Aaron's OK? It's typically built in to auto- restructure a roster bonus. Auto-restructuring a base salary may be a different story. Or as Wood noted, could be a voidable years issue as well, which would require approval. Edited April 15, 2021 by packfanfb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Could just be speculation or blabber, but this whole drama is upsetting and it appears to be affecting the upcoming season. Gute, the FO and Rodgers are all to blame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 21 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Could just be speculation or blabber, but this whole drama is upsetting and it appears to be affecting the upcoming season. Gute, the FO and Rodgers are all to blame. Can't trade him soon enough TBH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 44 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Could just be speculation or blabber, but this whole drama is upsetting and it appears to be affecting the upcoming season. Gute, the FO and Rodgers are all to blame. Except you don't need Rodgers permission to re-work his contract. Andrew Brandt confirmed there is language in there that allows teams to do it automatically if they please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 24 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Can't trade him soon enough TBH I'm sure he has a full no trade clause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Penske Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 There were some people mad around here when GB past on these guys in the draft 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit Pack Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Arden Key released by the Raiders. I had such a crush on this dude. He was dominant for LSU in 2016. His draft stock fell for off the field stuff and a poor combine. I was majorly bummed when the Raiders selected him just the pick before Green Bay. We ended up with Burks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonKarman Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 2 hours ago, packfanfb said: Could just be speculation or blabber, but this whole drama is upsetting and it appears to be affecting the upcoming season. Gute, the FO and Rodgers are all to blame. I mean, you can't blame the FO for not wanting to extend a guy who has 3 years left in his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Packerraymond said: Except you don't need Rodgers permission to re-work his contract. Andrew Brandt confirmed there is language in there that allows teams to do it automatically if they please. I probably shouldn't comment because I am assuming something here. The Packers can freely roll base salary to signing bonus and spread it over the remaining years of the contract, but cannot add voidable years to lower the hit next year without Rodgers signing off on it and that is where I would guess the hang up is at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Packerraymond said: I'm sure he has a full no trade clause. Why are you sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 Just now, incognito_man said: Why are you sure Just about every star does. What happens if Jacksonville wants Rodgers? Why would he want to go there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Brit Pack said: Arden Key released by the Raiders. I had such a crush on this dude. He was dominant for LSU in 2016. His draft stock fell for off the field stuff and a poor combine. I was majorly bummed when the Raiders selected him just the pick before Green Bay. We ended up with Burks. What is eye opening is to go back and look at all the players drafted after Burks. The best player drafted after Burks may well be Valdes-Scantling, 90% of those players will be out of the NFL after their 1st contract, if they are not already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, R T said: I probably shouldn't comment because I am assuming something here. The Packers can freely roll base salary to signing bonus and spread it over the remaining years of the contract, but cannot add voidable years to lower the hit next year without Rodgers signing off on it and that is where I would guess the hang up is at. Well yeah, if I'm the MVP and they come to me and say, hey we want to re-do your contract so we save some cap space, but it's still easy to cut you and move on, I'd say hell no. I'm sure Rodgers wants assurances and the Packers want their cake and to eat it too, save money this year, but keep our options open for next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Punting Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 2 hours ago, packfanfb said: Could just be speculation or blabber, but this whole drama is upsetting and it appears to be affecting the upcoming season. Gute, the FO and Rodgers are all to blame. I hope that's just speculation, but if it's true, it's kind of a self-own by management. They recognized the need/desirability of adding a big name free agent but because Rodgers wouldn't do their preferred restructure they then ignored two other sources of cap space (Adams, Z Smith) which would've enabled the FA signing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R T Posted April 15, 2021 Share Posted April 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Well yeah, if I'm the MVP and they come to me and say, hey we want to re-do your contract so we save some cap space, but it's still easy to cut you and move on, I'd say hell no. I'm sure Rodgers wants assurances and the Packers want their cake and to eat it too, save money this year, but keep our options open for next year. Exactly, but I understand why both side are where they are at and it is a probably a dead issue for the front office and Rodgers reps. Being a slow period in the NFL season the media will keep playing this card as long as they can get a rise out of Packer fans though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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