Mind Character Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 hours ago, brownie man said: Actually the only way I can see it happening is if Wolf thinks he'll eventually succeed Dorsey here. That he'll be groomed to eventually be our GM Because in GB the guy Gutenkust who got the job is only 45 so if things to well there Wolf would never really be in a position to get the job Dorsey is 57 not old at all really, but deff older than 57 so 5 years from now Wolf would be in a much better position to be GM here than in GB Not likely. Think of it like this...who gets the credit for what happens in GB now? Before the league knew Ted Thompson was hanging on by a thread but it was Wolf and Gutenkust that were thought to be really holding things together and making an impact. Now, that credit goes to Gutenkust and Russ Ball. If Cleveland ever has any bit of success soon, everyone involved is getting the job of their dreams. Highsmith will be a GM...and Wolf probably thinks that he can make an impact for which he can receive some credit in cleveland depending on the position offered. The Cleveland job makes sense career wise. Also, it's bad knews for Andrew Berry our shadow GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 hours ago, brownie man said: Dorsey is 57 not old at all really, but deff older than 57 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosko1616 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I think the whole successor to Dorsey thing will be the selling point. He’ll get to bring his dad along to be a consultant. Who funny enough was already consulting Dorsey. Probably a substantial raise I’d think. And the idea that if he, Dorsey, and Highsmith can turn this thing all three men might be canton bound. No joke. I don’t think Wolf or highsmith have ever really got to put there stamp on a team like they could here two top 5 picks. 3 2nds. 100 million In cap space. And an already talented but young roster. IMHO they could get this thing turned around rather quickly and be legends. I do however believe with three men and Ron wolf. They can convince Jimmy to stay out of the way and to can Hue next season to bring in an actually coach. Maybe it’s McCarthy like Mind said. Maybe Toub. Maybe we get lucky and grab Peterson from Washington U or David Shaw. But I think if we get Elliot it’s going to go along way in bring respectability back to the org. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbybrown Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 59 minutes ago, Mind Character said: Not likely. Think of it like this...who gets the credit for what happens in GB now? Before the league knew Ted Thompson was hanging on by a thread but it was Wolf and Gutenkust that were thought to be really holding things together and making an impact. Now, that credit goes to Gutenkust and Russ Ball. If Cleveland ever has any bit of success soon, everyone involved is getting the job of their dreams. Highsmith will be a GM...and Wolf probably thinks that he can make an impact for which he can receive some credit in cleveland depending on the position offered. The Cleveland job makes sense career wise. Also, it's bad knews for Andrew Berry our shadow GM. Yeah doesn’t look good for Berry, one would think he is on the outer now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwibrown Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 19 minutes ago, hornbybrown said: Yeah doesn’t look good for Berry, one would think he is on the outer now and Paul Depodesta. I bet ya he is applying for jobs at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie man Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 42 minutes ago, Thomas5737 said: lol man u know I meant 45 that bama game was going on I wasnt paying attention lol Hopefully we get Wolf it'd be alot of sense but alot still to happen They gotta get this draft right This could be the singular greatest draft of all time these guys this right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 7 hours ago, zelbell said: Browns making me feel good after the cavs failures? What a wacky world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: and Paul Depodesta. I bet ya he is applying for jobs at the moment. Hopefully not. The Packers under Thompson used a lot of moneyball concepts, such as picking often, trading down as opposed to up, amassing comp picks when you couldn’t resign guys, etc. I’m hoping these guys are forward thinking enough to realize that analytics has a place in a modern front office and they have a savant at their disposal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatgerman Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 4 hours ago, Kiwibrown said: and Paul Depodesta. I bet ya he is applying for jobs at the moment. He knew things werent looking good when he realized, that they realized, he could be replaced by a calculater. Oh, no, Math-man! BANG! POW! BOOM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatgerman Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 5 hours ago, Mind Character said: Not likely. Think of it like this...who gets the credit for what happens in GB now? Before the league knew Ted Thompson was hanging on by a thread but it was Wolf and Gutenkust that were thought to be really holding things together and making an impact. Now, that credit goes to Gutenkust and Russ Ball. If Cleveland ever has any bit of success soon, everyone involved is getting the job of their dreams. Highsmith will be a GM...and Wolf probably thinks that he can make an impact for which he can receive some credit in cleveland depending on the position offered. The Cleveland job makes sense career wise. Also, it's bad knews for Andrew Berry our shadow GM. I agree with every part of this; my thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatgerman Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Also, just saw packers are interviewing Mike Pettine for D-Coordinater. Ha! Good luck with that! I hope they like their D overcomplicated and ineffective... #RexRyanCoachingTree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatgerman Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 5 hours ago, bosko1616 said: I think the whole successor to Dorsey thing will be the selling point. He’ll get to bring his dad along to be a consultant. Who funny enough was already consulting Dorsey. Probably a substantial raise I’d think. And the idea that if he, Dorsey, and Highsmith can turn this thing all three men might be canton bound. No joke. I don’t think Wolf or highsmith have ever really got to put there stamp on a team like they could here two top 5 picks. 3 2nds. 100 million In cap space. And an already talented but young roster. IMHO they could get this thing turned around rather quickly and be legends. I do however believe with three men and Ron wolf. They can convince Jimmy to stay out of the way and to can Hue next season to bring in an actually coach. Maybe it’s McCarthy like Mind said. Maybe Toub. Maybe we get lucky and grab Peterson from Washington U or David Shaw. But I think if we get Elliot it’s going to go along way in bring respectability back to the org. Next years coach... Jon Gruden anyone? Finally, a coaching search without Gruden speculation. 10 years 100 mil?? Paul Brown just crapped the grave. Hopefully Sean Payton gets canned so we can match it next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosko1616 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 52 minutes ago, Fatgerman said: Next years coach... Jon Gruden anyone? Finally, a coaching search without Gruden speculation. 10 years 100 mil?? Paul Brown just crapped the grave. Hopefully Sean Payton gets canned so we can match it next year. Peyton’s not going anywhere. Guys I want next year. Peterson from Washington U. David Shaw Stanford. McCarthy if Greenbays decideds to go a different direction. Toub from KC. OBrien if they let him go. Jason Garrett if Jones gets ballzy. Deflippo if he doesn’t get a HC this year. And possibly Wilks from Carolina. The only other broadcaster I’d offer a **** ton too is cowher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatgerman Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 22 minutes ago, bosko1616 said: Peyton’s not going anywhere. Guys I want next year. Peterson from Washington U. David Shaw Stanford. McCarthy if Greenbays decideds to go a different direction. Toub from KC. OBrien if they let him go. Jason Garrett if Jones gets ballzy. Deflippo if he doesn’t get a HC this year. And possibly Wilks from Carolina. The only other broadcaster I’d offer a **** ton too is cowher. Todd Wash is doing a hellava job as D-coordinater in Jacksonville. His D-line coach, Marion Hobby, does great work teaching passrush. He could be Washs D-coordinater. Jay Gruden as his O-coordinater. BTW, in this scenerio, Jay Gruden gets canned by Washington next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshBooty Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 I for one don't really want Eliot Wolf in Cleveland. Have you seen his hand size? No way he could end up as an executive in cold rainy Sundays in November.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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