swede700 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klomp Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Interesting idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gnat Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 55 minutes ago, Klomp said: Interesting idea They did it with Eric Kendricks instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krauser Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Klomp said: Interesting idea I wrote just a couple pages back that the Vikings could convert some of Harrison Smith's salary into a signing bonus to open up cap space... Quote They can convert some of Smith’s 2019 salary into a bonus that is prorated for the remaining 3 years of the contract. That wouldn’t add any money to the deal. The effect would be to lower Smith’s cap hit in 2019, while increasing it in 2020 and 2021. For instance, they could give Smith a $4.5M bonus plus $3.85M salary this year instead of the $8.35M salary he’s currently due. Instead of Smith converting $4.5M it was Kendricks converting $4.15M. Rudolph was never going to be traded just to make room for signing Bradbury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 But Cousins contract!!!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 That's why Kendricks is my guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Has anyone told Cian? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Gnat said: They did it with Eric Kendricks instead. Kendricks is a good choice too. I know someone here thought that the team wouldn't restructure a player a year after they just signed him. This is why I didn't bother to argue too much. Everything has its time. The time for reality is has come for that person. Just like the Eagles would restructure Lane Johnson and Bennett, the Vikings will choose players early in their contract to restructure. The earlier, the better. And the player will agree to do it because it is beneficial to the player too. Edited May 14, 2019 by Cearbhall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Cearbhall said: Kendricks is a good choice too. I know someone here thought that the team wouldn't restructure a player a year after they just signed him. This is why I didn't bother to argue too much. Everything has its time. The time for reality is has come for that person. Just like the Eagles would restructure Lane Johnson and Bennett, the Vikings will choose players early in their contract to restructure. The earlier, the better. And the player will agree to do it because it is beneficial to the player too. That was me...and yes, I was wrong...but I still think it's highly unusual to do so, despite the benefits. I understand that the player gets some cash now, but I also believe there has to be some other benefit other than just cash up-front...but I don't personally know what that would be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 If I'm interpreting how things work correctly the $2.15M that was converted to a signing bonus will hit the cap, each of the next 4 years at $537.5k? Meaning his cap charge would be: 2019: $4,418,750? 2020: $10,137,500 2021: $11,137,500 2022: $12,137,500 2023: $8,962,500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, swede700 said: but I also believe there has to be some other benefit other than just cash up-front...but I don't personally know what that would be. The benefit to the player is enhanced job security. More money prorated later means there would be a larger dead cap hit for the team to move on from the player later. Ergo, the team is less likely to move on from that player. Another potential benefit is the tag ramifications. If it is a player that is earning enough it will enhance the amount a team would be required to devote to holding that player for a year on one of the tags. There really is no downside for players so they'll pretty much always agree. There are some potential downsides for teams so they have to be careful. The team avoids some risk if they do not have to do it. However, when tight against the cap the benefit is enough for teams to go forward with giving players simple restructures. The wise team will choose players that they are most certain are guys they want to have for a few more years. The team will also look for players with as many years left on their contract as possible to mitigate some of the risks by spreading the proration between as many years as possible in order to minimize the total amount they have to convert. Edited May 15, 2019 by Cearbhall Three typos corrected 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) On 5/14/2019 at 3:34 PM, VikeManDan said: If I'm interpreting how things work correctly the $2.15M that was converted to a signing bonus will hit the cap, each of the next 4 years 5 years at $537.5k $430k? Meaning his cap charge would be: 2019: $4,418,750? ($4,848,750) 2020: $10,137,500 ($10,030,000) 2021: $11,137,500 ($11,030,000) 2022: $12,137,500 ($12,030,000) 2023: $8,962,500 ($9,930,000) Was close. Needed to spread over the 5 years remaining including 2019. Correct cap hit in parenthesis above. Edited May 16, 2019 by VikeManDan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 How much do you guys think we can get for Rudy? I'd be happy with a 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, SteelKing728 said: How much do you guys think we can get for Rudy? I'd be happy with a 3rd. I think you’d be lucky to get a 5th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 19 minutes ago, SemperFeist said: I think you’d be lucky to get a 5th. Maybe in the 2021 draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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