Snake Plissken Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Robbroy45 said: This seems...like a pretty good idea, and not too different from the role he played last year Leaves the team pretty thin behind H. Smith and A. Harris. Seems we have much better depth at LB, especially considering passing situations with out talent at DB and pulling a LB off the field. Perhaps looking at him as a hybrid S/LB. I suppose he could play some OLB and still be a back-up S if needed. Edited April 30, 2019 by Snake Plissken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingsrule Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Snake Plissken said: Leaves the team pretty thin behind H. Smith and A. Harris. Seems we have much better depth at LB, especially considering passing situations with out talent at DB and pulling a LB off the field. Perhaps looking at him as a hybrid S/LB. I suppose he could play some OLB and still be a back-up S if needed. My first thoughts as well, we've already lost two Safeties this offseason. If this is the plan, the Vikes may need to find some cash to bring in a veteran FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, vikingsrule said: My first thoughts as well, we've already lost two Safeties this offseason. If this is the plan, the Vikes may need to find some cash to bring in a veteran FA. They'll likely only run with 4 safeties on roster as it is, so it's not really that big of a deal. We didn't really even know Anthony Harris could handle playing full-time until last season and they've been fine. If they can manage to keep Kearse as a hybrid LB/S and have 2 backup safeties as well, they'll be more than fine. Edited April 30, 2019 by swede700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 isn't Kearse 215 pounds? linebacker...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted May 1, 2019 Author Share Posted May 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, vike daddy said: isn't Kearse 215 pounds? linebacker...? Plenty of linebackers run around 225-230 now, and with his 6'4" frame I think he could easily put on 10-20 pounds without much trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplexing Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 4 hours ago, vikingsrule said: My first thoughts as well, we've already lost two Safeties this offseason. If this is the plan, the Vikes may need to find some cash to bring in a veteran FA. There's safety in numbers ... of safeties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klomp Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 4 hours ago, vikingsrule said: My first thoughts as well, we've already lost two Safeties this offseason. If this is the plan, the Vikes may need to find some cash to bring in a veteran FA. Could speak as to how comfortable they feel about the AAF kid and the rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krauser Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Zimmer/Gray have had a nearly flawless track record with DB evaluations and development since coming to Minnesota. Every significant acquisition (Munnerlyn, Newman, Waynes, Alexander, Hughes -- note, all corners) has panned out, at least after a year or so of development. All of their contract extensions (Smith, Sendejo, Rhodes) have been good value, with Smith and Rhodes winning All Pro after signing extensions, and Sendejo developing from a marginal starter to a good safety. They've found significant contributions from late round / UDFA acquisitions (Kearse a 7th rounder, Harris and Hill as UDFAs) despite serious concerns at the time they were added (Kearse was inconsistent in college, Harris was dramatically undersized, Hill had questions around drug use). The few draft picks that haven't hit have all been 7th rounders (James, Price, Tocho). They've also a few guys in camp who've turned out to be plus starters elsewhere (Kurt Coleman put up 11 INTs for the Panthers in 2 years, Justin Coleman turned into one of the better NCBs in the league and signed with the Lions for $36M/4). This year the Vikings start in great shape -- an embarrassment of riches at corner, and one of the best safety tandems in the league. Smith is the only DB who's 30. They've added the best safety in the AAF, and a couple more late round picks. Don't think we should expect anything from those additions this year, but there's absolutely no reason to worry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 6 hours ago, Krauser said: Zimmer/Gray have had a nearly flawless track record with DB evaluations and development since coming to Minnesota. Every significant acquisition (Munnerlyn, Newman, Waynes, Alexander, Hughes -- note, all corners) has panned out, at least after a year or so of development. All of their contract extensions (Smith, Sendejo, Rhodes) have been good value, with Smith and Rhodes winning All Pro after signing extensions, and Sendejo developing from a marginal starter to a good safety. They've found significant contributions from late round / UDFA acquisitions (Kearse a 7th rounder, Harris and Hill as UDFAs) despite serious concerns at the time they were added (Kearse was inconsistent in college, Harris was dramatically undersized, Hill had questions around drug use). The few draft picks that haven't hit have all been 7th rounders (James, Price, Tocho). They've also a few guys in camp who've turned out to be plus starters elsewhere (Kurt Coleman put up 11 INTs for the Panthers in 2 years, Justin Coleman turned into one of the better NCBs in the league and signed with the Lions for $36M/4). This year the Vikings start in great shape -- an embarrassment of riches at corner, and one of the best safety tandems in the league. Smith is the only DB who's 30. They've added the best safety in the AAF, and a couple more late round picks. Don't think we should expect anything from those additions this year, but there's absolutely no reason to worry. While Sendejo certainly improved under Jerry Gray and Mike Zimmer, I never thought he was a "good" safety. I would say that his deficiency consisted in mainly being a pretty poor tackler. He was the guy who always looked for he big hit, but he couldn't wrap up a ball carrier to save the horns on his helmet. good tackling for a safety is such a basic requirement, and Sendejo just wasn't very good at it. I'm not sure his other skills compensated for his lack of tackling ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede700 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Virginia Viking said: While Sendejo certainly improved under Jerry Gray and Mike Zimmer, I never thought he was a "good" safety. I would say that his deficiency consisted in mainly being a pretty poor tackler. He was the guy who always looked for he big hit, but he couldn't wrap up a ball carrier to save the horns on his helmet. good tackling for a safety is such a basic requirement, and Sendejo just wasn't very good at it. I'm not sure his other skills compensated for his lack of tackling ability. Take it for what it's worth, but analytically, Sendejo was considered an above-average safety, which could be considered "good" by some, but is probably just a level below good. Either way, I think we can all agree that Harris probably has the potential to be better than Sendejo, who was decent, in his own right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krauser Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Virginia Viking said: While Sendejo certainly improved under Jerry Gray and Mike Zimmer, I never thought he was a "good" safety. Call him what you want, Sendejo played considerably better in 2016 and 2017 than any of us expected he could. Reactions when he signed his contract extension heading into 2016 were almost entirely negative (I was unhappy with it), but he turned into a good player, and was well worth the deal. Point is just that I'm inclined to trust whatever Zimmer and co are comfortable doing with the safety depth this year. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 18 hours ago, Robbroy45 said: This seems...like a pretty good idea, and not too different from the role he played last year I can't link to Twitter at work but Kearse tweeted last night questioning who these sources were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 35 minutes ago, VikeManDan said: I can't link to Twitter at work but Kearse tweeted last night questioning who these sources were. haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SemperFeist Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 (edited) Kearse should probably be hoping that the source is correct. Edited May 1, 2019 by SemperFeist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDakViking Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 2 hours ago, SemperFeist said: Kearse should probably be hoping that the source is correct. Probably doing more a a NLB/S hybrid role. Big nickel package type of thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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